Bills vs Dolphins – GAMEDAY!!!

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  1. Ken says:

    6 sacks today

  2. The Flying Pig says:

    After this much investment – this OL playing like this is ridiculous

  3. its hard to believe Miami scored 0 points, seems like it should be lower, lol and smh

  4. ocalarob says:

    there going to have to make a move to shore up the OL. not sure why they dumped flowers?

    • Tim Knight says:

      You think he changes everything? He can’t play all 5 positions. The OL and the entire blocking scheme has been awful all day.

  5. Tim Knight says:

    This is just awful. 😦

  6. mf13ss says:

    Damn this fucking O-Line of ours!

  7. Capt. Stubbs says:

    Just go get cones out of the parking lot. I think they’ll do better

  8. Mike E. says:

    I’m trying to decide if it’s a good thing or a bad thing that there’s 15 more games to play . . .

  9. what a stinker of a performance, i feel sorry for the fans that witnessed this shitshow in person, or online, or tv

  10. naplesfan2010 says:

    I think the heat is starting to effect Buffalo. Did you see how long it took them to score?

  11. bailbondmike says:

    The way the Raiders are playing the Steelers in Pittsburg, we are going to get slaughtered there also.

  12. herdfan says:

    I lost my stream. I think the universe is protecting me.

  13. naplesfan2010 says:

    With 2 OCs, it seems like they could get the blocking to work.

  14. Capt. Stubbs says:

    One play at a time…. well that motto made this game a long……drawn out pain staking watch

  15. naplesfan2010 says:

    Why isn’t Phillips playing like Rousseau?

  16. throw it short to wilson, he will get us 36 points, lol

  17. herdfan says:

    I guess you could say we lost our starter but to me, it wasn’t looking great when Tua was in. Not blaming him, just saying I don’t think that’s what caused this. Brissett played well enough.

  18. The Flying Pig says:

    This game was one of the options for the fest…

  19. mf13ss says:

    Be prepared to hear Deshaun Watson to Miami ALL WEEK.

  20. naplesfan2010 says:

    Wilson is on fire.

  21. naplesfan2010 says:

    Should’ve kicked the FG.

  22. this looks bad for Flores, he failed to have the team ready for their home opener, and failed to come up with a way to protect his starting QB

    and o yea, lost the game 35-0

  23. mf13ss says:

    I was so hyped to watch this game all week long. Now, I’m just pissed off.

  24. Miami should bring in cam newton, hes a little bit bigger and can hold up to getting sacked a little bit better

  25. Krishna says:

    Meltdown, top to bottom…..

    Sure hope they answer that shitshow!

  26. mf13ss says:

    David C (@DolphinsSB52) says:
    September 19, 2021 at 4:24 pm
    cant blame 35-0 on the media, criticism is fair game at this point
    “at this point”? The media has been criticizing us unfairly since before everybody had a cellphone. We don’t know how long Tua will be out, Brissett is clearly not the answer, so naturally, the media is going to CONTINUE to push Deshaun Watson to us. SMH

  27. bailbondmike says:

    The 49er’s are 2-0 now. That pick getting worse, so far.

  28. mf13ss says:

  29. bailbondmike says:

    Well, ……………………….we are still tied for the division lead after 1 ugly game and 1 super shitty game. That is without getting technical about tiebreakers.

  30. Tim Knight says:

    I have nothing to say.

  31. herdfan says:

    I hate the taunting calls. I know if I was playing, I’d be running my mouth! 😆

  32. stangerx says:

    I didn’t see the 4th quarter, but it didn’t seem like a beat down….. yet it was. Josh Allen has a way of just getting things done in a low key way. But guess as I say that a beat down on our OL there was.

  33. Krishna says:

    Beatdown, meltdown….wtf! On every level. That’s what’s baffling to me.

  34. bookman11 says:

    Never even felt like we were in the game to me

  35. bookman11 says:

    I’m beginning to think we drafted the wrong QB that year.

    • Capt. Stubbs says:

      You could be right however no qb would of looked good behind that shitty o-line

    • Tim Knight says:

      It really wasn’t about the QB today. We can’t block anything. Then add the stupid plays, drops and turnovers and you get blown out. The Bills are also in a different class.

      This game punched us all in the gut.

    • Krishna says:

      Dude, it had nothing to do with Tua’s performance today….that’s just hating.

      He was fucking body slammed to the ground because we decided not to pick up the blitz from blind side. He probably fractured a few ribs he hit the ground so hard…..jmo, of course. Lol!

      • Krishna says:

        On the second series….geez, loueez

      • bookman11 says:

        When did I say it was about Tuas performance today? Seriously, really need to drop an “F” bomb? I happen to be watching the Chargers game and Herbert looks really good

      • Krishna says:

        Just trying to figure out your left field comment on today’s game and how it left you feeling we picked the wrong guy in the draft…

        …..I know I’m usually slow, but I still don’t get it.

        Please, help me connect the dots.

    • Ken says:

      Tua left after a couple of plays. How is this about Tua?

      • bookman11 says:

        I am not making it about Tua, but Herbert sure looks better to me, just a gut feeling. Not trying to start anything, just my opinion.

      • Krishna says:

        Then, an odd comment right after a team loss that has me befuddled….to say the least.

        Not sure how it’s pertinent to today’s game?

  36. Tim Knight says:

    I also can’t figure this league out just yet. Outside of a few teams, who’s good and who’s bad?

  37. stangerx says:

    So OD and I split up before hitting the seats. Ask if he wants anything and he says a water. After sitting there for a bunch of the 1st Q and it hits me he is drinking a bud light. Comment “guess you wanted a beer anyhow.”

    After some talk turned out he’d taken over the beer in the cupholder of the sweet young woman next to him. And how sweet was she…. she never said a word. Also refused OD’s $20 to pay for it.

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Bookman, Herbert is very good but also having a tough time today. Our team’s performance was not about QB, we can’t compete in the trenches on offense. There is no time to do anything.

  39. Krishna says:

    The obvious must so obvious that some can’t see the obvious! Lmao!

    We sucked ass today!!!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think the defense competed today with zero support. They’re not dominant or anything but they can compete. Our offense was horrible today on so many levels. We might be too young.

      • Ken says:

        Even the defense sucked ass early in the game but at least they played better after that

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        D looked pretty and they got put on a short field all day long. Should have never went for that first fourth down. It snowballed quickly and everyone started pressing the rest of the way.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah if the offense competed today we would have at least been in a game. They obviously could not do much of anything.

      • Krishna says:

        So many PIs and dropped INTs…those are at a minimum missed opportunities and NOT winning football.

  40. Krishna says:

    Didn’t think the D played to its paper potential….lol!

  41. Tim Knight says:

    If Tua has fractured ribs he’s probably out at least 3-4 weeks. But with this OL and the drops it doesn’t really matter. This team better improve individually really fast or this season is not going to be good. Brissett hung in there and played tough but also had no chance. 40 pass attempts for 169 for 4.2 YPA. That’s awful and it’s all on the blocking.

  42. Krishna says:

    At least TK and on his throwing side, so pain might be more to overcome. The proper force on a rib causes it to snap. My best guess on Tua.

    When I snapped my rib, I heard it, but didn’t feel it right away. I was like, wtf, what just happened? You could tell he felt it.

  43. Capt. Stubbs says:

    They said x-rays were negative on his ribs

  44. CavalierKong says:

    LOL, at least we’re not as dumb as the Houston Texans…

  45. New Age says:

    At this point, you have to question the leadership. Why is our OL always terrible but we let go OL players like Flowers? Why are we on the third set of OCs and OL coaches in 3 years? Why did we keep so many WRs on the team when we can’t find even decent O-Linemen? Why aren’t the guys we drafted at OL better by now?

    Buffalo played terribly…and beat the shit out of us. NE played terrible with a rookie QB…and the defense saved our asses. This team is almost as bad as any team in the NFL. Good teams don’t get destroyed at home without scoring any points. I don’t want to overreact…but this is Year 3 and it looks just like Year 2 but worse. We got beat even worse than last year! The problems I saw last year…look EXACTLY the same as last year. This team is supposedly big on accountability…time to pay the piper. Flores team suck until further notice.

    • Krishna says:

      I’m not going to disagree, just say let’s see if there’s an answer to that shitshow.

    • Ken says:

      Flowers was nothing special and it’s not like he would have made a difference today. He has not been great in pass protection his whole career

      • New Age says:

        True, but the back end of our WR group isn’t that special either. Why keep average WRs when your OL is terrible?

    • stangerx says:

      We’re 1-1 and that is all I wanted out of the first two games. Was pretty darn sure we’d lose to the Bills, even if didn’t expect in today’s way. Let’s see what happens. This D can put it together against most teams even if seems not the Bills.

  46. Mike E. says:

    They said X-ray (Tua’s rib) was negative on the radio, but he will getting an MRI tomorrow

    • stangerx says:

      A big possibility is cartilage tears. Those are a bitch. You feel OK generally and then just one wrong twist or move brings searing pain.

  47. Ken says:

    On the bright side at least Zach Wilson sucks monkey dick

  48. herdfan says:

    Knew this wasn’t going to end well. Very sad whatever happened.

  49. Mike E. says:

    How did the O-line regress so badly in year 2? We basically have the same damn line, is it Deiter not making the right line calls or is he just bad at helping the other guys? Karras being gone and Deiter replacing him is the biggest change, otherwise the O-line is intact, right?

    • mf13ss says:

      No, we keep changing up our starters.

      • Mike E. says:

        It was Jackson, Kindley, Deiter, Hunt and Davis today. They pulled Davis after some uneven play and put Eichenberg in at RT. Every O-line rotates guys in and out though. It was Jackson’s first start, but Davis started at RT last week. Eich started at LG last week too I believe

      • mf13ss says:

        Yup, we keep changing up our O-Line, and that includes starters.

    • stangerx says:

      Kindly and Jackson were taken to the woodshed in camp. How could they be worse? They were supposed to take the jump.

    • mf13ss says:

      And it’s year 3, by the way.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Our first two drives the Bills really threw off our entire protection scheme with their unique and unprecedented use of rushing an extra guy off the edge. It was so confounding we gave up 2 sacks and a QB hit in our first 3 pass plays.

      I’m not sure who the defensive genius is on the Bills who came up with this concept of ‘rushing an extra guy’, but wow, give that guy a medal.

      • stangerx says:

        Those first two series were brutal. Free rusher after free rusher coming in.

      • New Age says:

        I’m glad you explained it because I was as lost as our OL. I was looking under my coach to see where those guys were coming from. I wish we had guys like that!

  50. Ken says:

    The play where Tua got hurt was just horrible blocking by Davis. He completely whiffed on the DE in a one on one matchup. Inexcusable

  51. Mike E. says:

    M – Year 2 for Jackson, Kindley and Hunt. Year 3 for Deiter and year 5 for Davis

    • mf13ss says:

      You play the best 5, regardless of experience… and you allow them to gel together. It’s no wonder there’s no cohesiveness on our O-Line, bud.

  52. mf13ss says:

    Methinks the experiment with co-OCs should end right now.

  53. Tim Knight says:

    The rules and the refs are ruining this game we love. It’s becoming unwatchable.

  54. Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ Kong!

  55. CavalierKong says:

    I said early in preseason, I’d like to see us pick 5 guys and let them develop some chemistry instead of going all training camp constantly mixing and matching.

    Part of the problem the 1st two weeks has been guys just flat out getting beat one on one, but there have been numerous times where our communication was clearly not there as guys are doubling defenders and leaving free rushers.

  56. ocalarob says:

    we don’t matchup well against the Bills, Josh allen has owned us
    It’s 1 loss in the column, no big deal, move on get ready for the raiders,

  57. ocalarob says:

    They should look to add a veteran or two on the OL before the trade deadline.

    at least that’s the noise i’ve been hearing

  58. ocalarob says:

    Tua has bruised ribs, x rays negative, i’ve had bruised ribs before, you can’t breathe without excrutiating pain, they say bruised ribs is more painful than broken ribs

  59. Tim Knight says:

    M13, you’re barking up the wrong tree with Co-OCs. It’s not play-calling or game planning, it’s lack of execution mano-a-mano. We can’t block, we have drops and we have dumb penalties at the wrong time. That’s on the players.

  60. CavalierKong says:

    wow, horrible clock management by dallas, lol

  61. Tim Knight says:

    The NFL should change their brand logo to the yellow flag. LOL 😦

  62. CavalierKong says:

    Herd, I think you may be right.

  63. New Age says:

    Most of our OL is very young and they’ve been mixing and matching where these guys play almost since Flores came here. Now that may work for the defense but it doesn’t for the offense. As a coach, you should know how your OL is supposed to look and have an idea pretty quickly what a guy can do. It hasn’t happened here and a journeyman OL being a starter 5 years in is what happens from it. Davis is a lifelong backup being forced to play as a starter. It’s a huge reason our OL sucks. Set the best 5, play them in the same spot, maybe have better blocking. It’s not a new concept.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I agree. We know the guys have, let a group of them develop together and maybe they can be a bit more than the sum of their parts. As it is, we keep moving bad players all over the place, and our bad players suck one on one, we suck at setting our protections, and we suck working together as a unit.

      • Tim Knight says:

        There is something to that. We’re too young and new. None of these guys have done much together. The core has to mature and less churning has to happen.

        It was a bad day but we’re 1-1. We’ll see.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yep, still a lot of season left to play

  64. Tim Knight says:

    I miss football from back in the day. Because of money, sports is becoming less about entertainment and more about dumb rules.

  65. wyoming85 says:

    We are a soft ass team!

    Every time Flores tried to show strength, we wilted like a virgin flower!

    Oh and I’m really fuckin glad nobody wanted to draft that inaccurate QB from Wyoming! Fuck him!

  66. wyoming85 says:

    Jesus fuckin dropped passes Christ!

    • wyoming85 says:

      Sorry just finished the game! Even though it was over 2 hours ago on the DVR!!!!!!!

    • CavalierKong says:

      That 1st Wilson drop was so huge. That would have been 1st and goal to go. If we score it’s 14-7. Maybe it’s a different game at that point.

      The Parker drop was 7 points.

      The Grant fumble was inside the 10.

      The 4th down stop cost us 3 points (even though I was ok with the call)

      All that was the 1st half. Who knows how the game plays out if we get points on just two of those possessions…all within our control…

  67. stangerx says:

    Where are you WIll Fuller? Cause Wilson just ain’t doing it. I’m ready to start Preston if he’s healthy.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Preston played today.

      Guys, stop!!! Did you watch the game today? Did you watch us upfront on offense? Stop looking for things other than what it is. We can’t block our plays.

  68. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 19, 2021 at 7:15 pm
    M13, you’re barking up the wrong tree with Co-OCs. It’s not play-calling or game planning, it’s lack of execution mano-a-mano. We can’t block, we have drops and we have dumb penalties at the wrong time. That’s on the players.
    Are you absolutely certain about this? I mean, we didn’t seem to be this dysfunctional on the O-Line last year, and we’ve certainly upgraded our personnel… at least on paper.

    The OC (not the TWO) is the one who calls the plays, and that means the O-Line should fall in balance to the play-calling: it’s that simple.

    Perhaps I’m wrong and you are right… but WHY have we taken a huge step back on our O-Line?

    • wyoming85 says:

      Soft team Bro!!!!!
      Flores tried to show strength, and they wilted!!!!!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Did you watch the game? Did the Co-OCs say whiff on blocks all day and we should be fine? LOL

      I think we’re too young and/or simply not good enough. That’s gonna fall on Grier if it continues.

      That said, maybe we’re all getting ahead of ourselves. We’re not there yet. I don’t really know. But Co-OCs is the least of my worries.

      • mf13ss says:

        Yes, I watched the entire game, from start to finish.

        And aside from a FG last week, we’ve scored a total of two TDs after two weeks in the books. NOT GOOD.

      • mf13ss says:

        Tua rushed for one, and Tua passed for one… all last week.

  69. wyoming85 says:

    I’ll give Wilson this.
    He did start catching in the second half!

    Fuck him for the first 2 drops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  70. CavalierKong says:

    Titans dropping passes left and right, lol

  71. wyoming85 says:

    The OL broke our new toy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  72. Capt. Stubbs says:

    Stanger I posted above about just joking around. I know I haven’t been on here in a while. However that’s who I am. Just trying to have some fun. I saw no response while you respond to everyone else

  73. wyoming85 says:

    Tennessee showed GRIT!

    We have none!

  74. Mike E. says:

    M – Think back to early last season. Fitz was uncanny at avoiding pressure, he was constantly stepping up in the pocket or moving to his left and right to avoid the rush. He really was magical sometimes last season. He masked a lot of bad play by the O-line. Tua didn’t/couldn’t do it as well as Fitz and that’s where his biggest issues were, he had trouble with the pressure that Fitz was able to avoid. I think he improved on that somewhat although today’s hit was rough coming from his blind side.

  75. Krishna says:

    I’m not sure how a co-co has anything to do with OL play calls when reading a defense.

    Are you saying the blitz (loved CKs version) wasn’t schemed for?


    • Krishna says:

      I’m trying to say you call the blocking at the line in context with the called play. I would think the call on the line at the snap is Most important.

  76. mf13ss says:

    I’m out.

  77. wyoming85 says:

    Play design????????

    The Fins are just plain SOFT!!!!!!!!!!

    Fores gave them a chance to show toughness! And they wilted!!!!!!!!!!!!

  78. bookman11 says:

    I think we are going to get smoked against the Raiders

  79. wyoming85 says:

    stangerx says:
    September 19, 2021 at 8:05 pm
    You do realize I’m not a liberal at this point I hope.
    You keep saying that! But???????????

    • stangerx says:

      But I’ve voted for GOP candidates 95% of the time in my life. Have freely admitted am a NeverTrump guy, but that does not mean liberal. Bill Kristol, Jeffe Flake and Adam Kinzinger are those too…. all most conservative.

  80. herdfan says:

    Losing sucks. That is all.

  81. CavalierKong says:

    It’d be nice it the Mets could do me a solid and beat the Phillies

  82. Capt. Stubbs says:

    My problem with O line is I don’t even feel like any of them are anything you can build around smh

  83. Krishna says:

    Like I mentioned earlier, there needs to be an answer to the shitshow.

    Lucy, you have some ‘splainen to do’

    • Capt. Stubbs says:

      Hopefully the explanation isn’t ” looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck ” probably a duck lol

  84. Mike E. says:

    M – I wasn’t blaming Tua at all. I’m kinda saying the O-line wasn’t really that good last year either, especially early on. I think they got better, but they’re not that good to start.

  85. Randy says:

    Well that was no fun. The OL issues were there last year. They showed improvement, but they were still not good. We had a couple veterans in the middle who helped even things out a little but this year it’s a bunch of really young guys who are learning on the fly. Davis is a a vet, but he simply isn’t starter level. The more he plays at one position, the more he gets exposed. Fitz was the difference last year. Also, the Bills have a damn good defensive front….not that it wasn’t still a bad performance from our OL…but Buffalo is a tough D up front.
    This is why I haven’t been real big on the idea that this is a playoff team yet. This OL and offense need more time to grow before we’re beating the best teams. The OL specifically is just too young and inexperienced to compete at that level consistently, to me. The defense is damn close. The ST, I think, are good enough to compete at that level. The offense is nowhere close.
    I’m really interested to see how this team comes back in the next game. We didn’t get to see how they would respond after the Bills kicked their asses last year. This time, we get to see what sort of leadership and heart this team has. Your HC can’t do it by himself. It has to come from the players.

    • Capt. Stubbs says:

      Randy tell me who on this line is someone we can build around. Not saying we don’t have a couple or few, just wanting your opinion. I get on paper there’s a few that have potential however after today not so sure.

  86. CavalierKong says:

    I feel this is worth remarking on again…

    Today the Texans had a 3rd and 15, they picked up 14 yards, but a defender was offsides.

    Instead of taking 3rd and 10, the Texans took 4th and 1 and punted…

  87. Randy says:

    Tua had no shot but recognizing a rusher off the edge or that extra guy is partly his responsibility. That was something that the Bills obviously had seen in film study and took advantage of it. The OL wasn’t giving Tua much of a chance, but he still has to get better too. He’s still basically a rookie, so I’m not saying he sucks….but he is still making rookie mistakes. He’s not managing the pocket very well, and I thought he would be a little better at that, frankly.
    I thought Brissett did well, actually. He’s got nifty feet. He’s not the answer at QB or anything, but he’s a pretty competent backup. It would have been much uglier if he hadn’t avoided a number of sacks/tackles.

  88. wyoming85 says:

  89. Randy says:

    Nice to see you again, btw! Actually, I think ALL the young guys have some talent. I think Hunt and Kindley could both be pretty good guards. I think Hunt MAY be really good. They both have some stuff in terms of technique I’d like to see them get better at, but I do think they show promise. Deiter has actually done okay so far. I’d like to see a little more from him, but it’s still his first year starting at C. I think Jackson has a ton of physical talent, but he’s just really looking lost this year. He looked just okay last year, but I think he was helped a lot by having a solid veteran playing next to him at guard last year too and a veteran QB who knew when to get the ball out. I thought he’d be more consistent this year, but he’s not. Still, he’s got enough natural talent to see how he develops. Eich has looked okay for a rookie. Not great or anything but holding his own for the most part. You always have those plays where you cringe watching rookie OL, but Eich is competing.
    I know some folks like Davis, but I don’t think he’s an answer as a long term starter. I do think this team could benefit from having a veteran OL starting somewhere along the line to help lead them. But, it was obvious in how they’ve handled their personnel that they’ve decided to go with youth and take their lumps. I think this year is about really finding out whether or not any of these guys are more than what’s on paper, Cap.

    • Ken says:

      Tua’s injury was all on Davis I don’t think he should be on the field again. It wasn’t an extra rusher he just missed the DE in 1 on 1 match up

    • Capt. Stubbs says:

      Thanks for the response I like yourline evaluation, I’m usually fair headed on all thee above. Let’s hope they get it together quicker than later. Anytime you need a bucket, I got you however you can’t have the one I have over my head right now

  90. Randy says:

    Yep, Davis has had a few of those already in 2 games…and Epenesa isn’t exactly a quick rusher. He’s not the sort of guy who should ever beat you around the edge like that. I’d really have no problem if they just put Eich in there and move ahead. But, the coaches may be worried they won’t have any QBs walking by week 8 with all that youth on the line….and want at least some veteran leadership out there. Who knows?

  91. Tim Knight says:

    M13, play design? Hut hut hike defenders mauling the backfield, that sort of stuff? LOL

  92. CavalierKong says:

    BBM/ Son,

    Incredibly cool moment in Cincinnati today- Dodgers vs Reds.

    The Reds TJ Friedl got his first major league hit with a HR today. Dodgers outfielder Mookie Betts realized the moment, and asked the fan (a Cincy fan)for the ball back, saying he’d get the fan another ball.

    The fan didn’t hesitate, he threw the ball down to Betts who got the ball to the Cincy dugout.

    Next inning, Betts gave the fan an autographed bat.

    That is just awesome.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    If you’re bad at the POA forget everything else.

  94. CavalierKong says:

    Imagine being a kicker like Sanders on a day like today. You have one kick to start the 2nd half, and that is literally all you did all day.

  95. Krishna says:

    Hopefully, no duck….

    …’s going to be a long week!

  96. Tim Knight says:

    Good stuff takes the edge off. LOL

  97. CavalierKong says:

    Thank you, Mets

  98. Mike E. says:

    🎁 welcome!

  99. olddolphan says:

    HOME SAFE AND SOUND!! Got up 5:30 AM. Walked dogs in total darkness. Kissed wife good-bye and was on I-75 south by 6:40. Drove over 600 miles round trip, including about 6-8 miles to find Young Stanger’s parked car. –WHAT an adventure!!
    BTW, in all the dozens and dozens of times I’ve driven from north of Tampa to the Stadiumk, today was the first time I’ve seen a HUGE Gator on the portion of I-75 known as “Alligator Alley!” About 20 miles East of the toll station near Naples was this dead 9-Foot Gator laying on the side of the paved road with his head looking like it had been run over by a Mack Truck. I’m REAL sure the truck took some serious damage from hitting this beast!! Damn hard to see this dark green monsters in the night time in time to avoid hitting them. Thankfully my Honda Accord Sport wasn’t involved in this one!! (make that “monster.”)
    Turned on WQAM for their post game show. The FIRST thing said by one of the commentators was “WHAT an ATROCIOUS PERFORMANCE BY OUR OFFENSIVE LINE–ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE!!!!!” I listened to the back-and-forth for about 15 minutes, then I turned it off. Could not take any more of it. My impression, after the New England game, was that our O-Line woes had been somewhat addressed. – – – WRONG, Tonto!!! – – – WE STILL have fatal flaws in our offensive line that need to be fixed!! Seems like our GM is STILL part of the problem, NOT part of the solution to our decade long search to build a “Not so offensive” O-Line. WE DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT GUYS YET!!! And, until we DO have MORE of the “Right Guys,” we WON’T be winning, or even getting to, the PLAYOFFS. I FEEL SORRY foe ANY QB who has to play behind this unit for an entire game!!
    GOTTA walk the Greyhound and get some shut-eye. My thanks to Young Stanger for another neat day that WAS NOT totally ruined by this horrid football performance. Sleep well, John.

  100. that game reflect horribly on alot of people. but its the responsibility of the coach to get the team ready to compete

    this loss was on FLores, and Flores needs to prepare the team for games, or clean out his office

    a HC that cant prepare his team, and cant compete against division opponents is eventually fired

  101. pheloniusphish says:

    Two games in. We won’t know what this team is until about game 5.

  102. year 3 of the Dolphins rebuild results in 35-0?
    if this is a rebuild, what were the Dolphins losing games before, 70-0?

    this isnt a rebuild, its a time waste, the Fins are soft, and are getting manhandled

    its getting harder to ignore the lack of success of Griers first round picks, and the lack of preparation from Flores,

    they should be well on their ways to the hot seats . SMH

  103. the coaches brought in Brissett to be the backup QB in a RPO offense.

    they started Albert Wilson in the game, when he hadnt played in years. Fuller was brought in, but who the hell knows whats going on with him

    Jackson, Kindley, Hunt, Deiter should be unemployed
    whoever thought the OL was ok, and we just needed some targets for Tua, totally blew it

    this could be the , the chickens coming home to roost for FLores and Grier

    there is no quality rebuilding going on, the fans and team got cheated out of a real rebuild

  104. ocalarob says:

    these guy on our OL are very young, the only true veteran is davis and i’m not sure if he played? didn’t he get injured.
    growing pains, did anyone here jump on a bike never learning how to ride one?

  105. Orob, i hear You, but everything has changed since the illusion has worn off

    this team competed last week, it was harder to see it then

    but after a 35-0 blowout for the home opener, its very easy to see that the rebuild has gone offtrack

  106. ocalarob says:

    i think the next 3 games are going to be very tough, it may seem we are headed for disaster.
    but we knew the first 5 games were going to be tough, I had us at best 1-4, we’ve already achieved that with 2 games played, if we go 2-3 in that stretch that’s a win because we hit a very easy schedule after that.

  107. ocalarob says:

    not to mention, the QB has to help the OL by being more decisive. that will factor and send an incorrect message as to how the OL is perceived. i had seen Brissett hold the ball for a very long time trying to make a play.

    • agreed, he did hold the ball too long sometimes, the receivers didnt get as open as they should have

      part of that is the co offensive coordinators doing a poor job , and part of it was WIlson started, even though he had not played in years

      bad coaching decisions on players, plays, and bad execution, equals a big home opener disaster

  108. Mike E. says:

    It was an ugly game, but it was one game. We competed with the Patriots and stole a game from them in their house. We got thrashed yesterday, but if Parker catches the pass in the endzone, which he usually does, there’s 7. Grant doesn’t fumble at the 5 yard line, maybe there’s either 3 or 7 there. We didn’t play well on offense and the O-line looked like shit. It’s up to the coaches to figure out a way to get these guys going, and that usually starts with running the ball. Get these guys playing physical in the run game and the rest will follow. I think we can do that.

  109. Derek Carr has been on fire for the 2-0 raiders

    against the ravens defense, he had 435 yards
    against the steelers defense, he had 382 yards

    he must be salivating at the prospect of facing a Miami defense,,,, SMH

  110. sb7mvp says:

    I didn’t watch the game because I knew the outcome wouldn’t be good and I’m glad I didn’t. Time was much better spent doing other things. It’s still early in the season, but for 2 games we haven’t looked good. However, we’ve seen this team come back from worse starts in the last 2 years.
    Seeing the score made me remember when the Bills opened against the Pats in 2003 and killed them 31-0. The Pats started 2-2 that season, but went on to win the Super Bowl with a 14-2 record. I’m not expecting a rebound of that magnitude, but a rebound to get into the playoffs would be nice. This regime has shown it can make necessary corrections over the season and improve. It’s time to make it count this this year.

  111. wyoming85 says:

    Welcome back “BURN IT THE FUCK DOWN” Monday! 😉

  112. bailbondmike says:

    I don’t even feel like posting today. lol That’s sad.

  113. New Age says:

    Mike E,

    I don’t think we’re overreacting. It was the first home game and third straight stinker. All the problems from last year manifested and our biggest hope is our coaches can get their heads out of their asses before it’s too late. The team looked terrible and uncompetitive. I think the complaints have been mild for the garbage I saw put out.

  114. Rhino says:

    Thought I’d check in to see how everyone is handling their hangovers this morning 😦

  115. wyoming85 says:

  116. Rhino says:

    at NE, vs Buff is the same schedule as last year when we were 0-2 vs 1-1 now. Yes, it was ugly yesterday but Buffalo is also a much better ‘team’ then when we played them game 2 last year. We have not kept pace.

    Sometimes games snowball out of control. We dropped the ball (literally) in every scenario possible, killing drives, giving Buff great field position, on and on.

    We started 1-4 last year, then 9-2 the remainder. The year before that 0-7, then 8-5 remainder.

    Flores finds a way to get better as the season progresses.

  117. Rhino says:

    Raiders aren’t really running the ball. It’s been mostly through the air. At least THAT plays into our Defense’s strength.

  118. Rhino says:

    26 – 24 🐬 over LVR.

    We won’t be passing up FGs this time. Sanders gets 4 FGs 😉

  119. bailbondmike says:

    Rhino, too early for the optimism. Should have waited until like Wednesday. It’s almost like playing some loud death metal music the morning after drinking a 5th of tequila. LOL

    Joking, we (I) actually need a little more optimism to get over the MMH.

    • steveccnv says:

      Back in the 70s teams used to play scared against the Staubach Cowboys at the end of games

      One game in particular had the Falcons leading, with the ball and just a couple of minutes left, they should’ve easily won that game, but fear prevailed, they turned it over and Dallas won

      When Flores went for the 4th and 2 on the second drive, I was thinking he’s so afraid of the Buffalo O, that he’s going to make an irrational decision, and if we don’t get the first down we’ll be in a hole we can’t get out of

      We had opportunities to hang with them, but schat the bed everytime, with the Waddle fumble being the final straw

      Think it was just not our day, no Fuller, Tua out, Brisket did what he could, but just not our day

      Carolina barely beats the jets, then crushes the Saints, after the Saints crushed GB, should the Saints feel like they need a rebuild too?

      It’s 1 game, forget about it, until it becomes a bigger problem

      Now line those fuckers up in the Oklahoma drill…

  120. pheloniusphish says:

    Turrible yesterday. Someone brought a bunch of Bills fans to the box. They were nice enough and one of the wives was hot, but still.

    Only the 2nd game. Ugly, but talk to me about the state of the team after game four.

  121. pheloniusphish says:

    Rhino – To answer your hangover question, on a plane heading home from the game. About to have a hair of the dog. Tomorrow on a different plane to Montana.

  122. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – So the Biden administration belongs to you, Kristol, Flake, et al?

    • stangerx says:

      Was all about whether I was a liberal. Just cause you go against the current GOP regime does not make you that. And yeah when that’s where you’ve landed you end up with some of the same bashes against that same GOP regime as the liberals. You do get we’re talking Trumpism I trust.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Ima mostly JBB. But you gotta admit This White House is an unmitigated disaster. And embarrassing.

      • stangerx says:

        I wouldn’t go so far as “unmitigated disaster” but then wouldn’t have gone that far with the Trump administration, and I sure don’t like Trump.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Bordering on hyperinflation, NATO allies recalling ambassadors, southern border is overrun, capricious repeal of the Constitution thru EO – if that’s not unmitigated disaster in your book your version must be apocalyptic.

      • stangerx says:

        Might have agreed was a disaster, but you through in “unmitigated.” Can’t think of an administration would deem that in my lifetime….. and that includes Nixon and Carter.

      • steveccnv says:

        So do you agree it’s a disaster?

      • stangerx says:

        Wouldn’t be the word I would use, but they’ve taken a lot of hits the last month or two why not say yes. Have no dog in the Biden administration. More interested in how his legislative proposals, and rooting against most of them. Would have been so much easier for me if the the GOP retained the Senate.

  123. stangerx says:

    For those going to Fest. They completely changed up the parking with all the tennis courts and such being built. Used to be cash parking across the street, but that is no more. Yellow parking passes only.

    If you don’t have a pass have to go to some very remote parking. Had to walk close to a mile to get to the stadium. But should mention it is free now.

    If you are driving to the Fest game best move would be get an orange pass (available stubhub etc). That will let you park right next too or at at least close to the tailgate. Or could get a yellow pass which will let you park across from the stadium grounds and be cheaper.

  124. New Age says:


    I have been interested in your political leanings in the past. I’m a Trumpist and wonder how much we agree on. I had many liberal/libertarian views until Obama so maybe not much. I still abhor compassionate conservatism, don’t like illegal immigration, and hate the bureaucracy. In fact, I probably hate your version of the GOP but maybe not lol.

    I know the political talk is always a landline but the Dolphins really crapped on giving us good conversations this week.

    • stangerx says:

      What I respect about your comment is that you readily recognize that there are key differences btwn the GOP we grew up with and Trumpism. To me Trumpism is at its core national populism. To me, again, with a loose cannon in the lead of it. And actually don’t think he holds strong beliefs, think he fell into that step by step based on what got the most applause at rallies.

      I’m a Reagan Republican. So you might not like, but not hard to figure out what am about.

      • steveccnv says:

        Trump ran on getting rid of the corruption in DC, thus draining the swamp

        Those that are corrupt in DC, Biden, Pelosi, Maxine, Feinstein, McConnell…fought hard to gaslight against him

        Sure, Trump did/said things people didn’t like, but his bottomline was genuine, unlike Biden and many others in DC, they’re there for power and greed

      • stangerx says:

        And draining the swamp is what a populist would be campaigning on. So matches up.

      • steveccnv says:

        What did Trump do that was so bad?

      • stangerx says:

        He cheated on his wife. I consider that bad. Never forgave Clinton for that either. He bragged on the Access Hollywood tape about how hard he tried to hit on a married woman. Consider that even worse.

      • steveccnv says:

        True or not Lol

        So you’re OK with the corrupt, sex predator, child molester, murderer Biden over Trump, because you say he cheated on his wife? Lol

      • stangerx says:

        You really don’t think Trump has cheated on his wife? He admitted paying off the porn star. Do you think he did that cause he liked her?

        The Access Hollywood stuff is there for you to hear in his own voice.

        Are facts difficult for you?

      • stangerx says:

        And here is the Access Hollywood audio in case you missed.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s what you took out of what I wrote?

        Could care less, if he cheated, has nothing to do with running the country

        On the other hand biden in a video brags about quid pro quo in the Ukraine, proving he’s corrupt, but you don’t think he is, and you’re asking me if facts are difficult for me?

      • steveccnv says:

        And you didn’t answer the question

      • stangerx says:

        So then what did you mean by “True or not Lol”? Seems your latest response was the way to go if cool with it. He cheated on Ivana too. Am sure you’ve heard of Marla Maples.

        And if you don’t care about cheating then you don’t. You asked what Trump did that was bad and I think cheating is bad. You are welcome to your opinion on it.

      • stangerx says:

        So your question was “So you’re OK with the corrupt, sex predator, child molester, murderer Biden”? No I’m not OK with any of those but once again left wondering how you know so many things that others do not. Am I supposed to just take what you say is true?

      • steveccnv says:

        Typical answer a question with a question response

        I’ll make it simple for you what did Trump do that was worse than what Biden did in Afghanistan?

        Or at the southern border?

      • stangerx says:

        Answer is am not on top on the exact situation to make such fine distinction as to either Afghanistan or the border. But do note you changed the subject. As well as hoping you get I’m not huge Biden fan.

      • steveccnv says:

        Trump didn’t admit to cheating, maybe he was married at the time, but that time wasn’t stated

        What biden does with those girls on stage and with the wives at Christmas parties is way worse, but all these politicians and rich people cheat, beside maybe Mike Pence, if you want to take the moral side you should want the swamp cleaned

      • steveccnv says:

        Trump didn’t admit to cheating, maybe he was married at the time, but that time wasn’t stated

        What biden does with those girls on stage and with the wives at Christmas parties is way worse, but all these politicians and rich people cheat, beside maybe Mike Pence, if you want to take the moral side you should want the swamp cleaned.

      • stangerx says:

        If you are gonna try to claim that Trump never cheated on a wife you are gonna have to come up with a conspiracy theory. He was touting Marla Maples around NYC while still married to Ivana. In Ivana’s book what happened.

        Well established he paid off the Playboy playmate and porn star long after he was married to Melania. He tried to hide the payments but then when turned out might be a campaign violation Trump insisted he made them. Both of them in detail have told about their relationships with him. You really trying to claim nothing happened? You are like the little engine that could on this.

      • steveccnv says:

        You’re like the little engine of insignificance

        Maybe if I put it in all caps you’ll read it I DON’T GIVE A FUCK IF TRUMP CHEATED

        Would you still vote for Biden today knowing everything he’s fucked up in such a short time?

      • stangerx says:

        If you don’t care at all if Trump cheated why do you keep trying to say he didn’t, or at least question if he did. Given how you feel it’s a bit strange.

        And yeah wouldn’t vote for Trump given what has happened. Cause he cheated. Show’s a lack of morals. You clearly don’t agree but where I stand.

      • New Age says:

        I loved Reagan and agree Trump enjoys the attention. The only decision I truly disliked from Reagan was the amnesty. I think it directly led to a forever blue California and has affected our economy negatively for decades.

        I wish there was a Reagan out there today but Trump is the closest to me. No one in Washington today wants to reduce the government like Reagan did. They love wars and mandates. They want global initiatives as America is doing poorly. They care more for themselves than their constituents. I think we should focus on the massive problems at home instead of wasting money abroad. I truly believe Reagan would not identify with the Republican Party of today…or in 2012. Guys like Romney, Bush, and McConnell are cancer to the GOP. They are puppets of big business and China.

      • steveccnv says:

        Never said Trump didn’t cheat

        You put a video out to prove he did, just said your video doesn’t prove he did like you suggest

        True or not meant, don’t care if he did

        Lol not on top of the Afghanistan or border situations, like that naive response

        He should be held accountable and charged with the murder of those Americans in Afghanistan, not first degree though

    • stangerx says:

      Keep in mind that Reagan was about the “shining city on the hill” and an aggressive foreign policy that brought the Berlin Wall down, as well as winning the Cold War.

      • New Age says:

        He was but I also find that idea was flawed or at least doesn’t fit current America. Look at Reagan’s California. It has the highest poverty rate in the nation. It’s got the widest margin between wealth and poverty in America. His idea of a ‘shining city on the hill’ is now a ‘gated fortress for the wealthy’ in his own home state.

        He beat Russia…and we can’t even beat goatherders who enjoy sexual contact with their goats. The America Reagan wanted was destroyed by the bureaucracy he hated after he died. It didn’t even take that long. To get back to his America, we need someone to stand up to Washington. It’s not Trump but the anger he’s pushed needs flamed and pushed. Washington needs to be brought to heel.

    • stangerx says:

      What I said was “He bragged on the Access Hollywood tape about how hard he tried to hit on a married woman.” And then put out audio of where he did exactly that. What else can I do for you steve?

      The cheating stuff is a different subject but one have also explained in depth.

      What do get is you don’t care if people cheat on their spouses. I do. Maybe it is the difference.

  125. stangerx says:

    Sounds like they might be sending Tua to the Doc who did the shots in North Dallas Forty.
    “Further tests on Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa’s ribs showed no major structural damage, NFL Network reported Monday.

    According to the report, X-rays were negative and Tagovailoa’s availability for the Dolphins’ Week 3 game against the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday will come down to “pain tolerance and functionality.”

  126. herdfan says:

    Too soon?

    Week 3

    Herd 23-20 🐬(Eternal optimist😉)

  127. wyoming85 says:

    HC Brian Flores September 20 media avail thread

    First, Tua is day-to-day

    Will Fuller is back with the team this week
    1:01 PM · Sep 20, 2021·Twitter Web App
    Quote Tweets

    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    The Dolphins will look at personnel to see if they need to make any lineup changes in order to play better than they did yesterday, per Coach Flores
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Coach on Tua: He’s a very tough kid. He tried to go yesterday. Toughness isn’t something I’d question with him.

  128. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    If Tua can go he’s going to go, Coach says.

  129. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Nothing too serious with regards to Jakeem’s and Jesse Davis’ injuries, per Coach.

  130. herdfan says:

    Week 3

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬(We won’t be passing up FGs this time. Sanders gets 4 FGs 😉)
    Herd 23-20 🐬(Eternal optimist😉)

  131. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Different defensive packages on a weekly basis dictates snap counts, Coach says when asked about Holland and Brandon Jones seeing more time than Eric Rowe yesterday.

    “We played it a little different yesterday.”

  132. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Asked about Austin Jackson: He’s gotta play better. I can’t put it any more simple. Gotta play better, and he’s not alone. And we’ll do that. This is a resilient team. We’ll make the corrections, turn the page and get back to practice on Wednesday.

  133. wyoming85 says:

  134. wyoming85 says:

  135. CavalierKong says:

    Week 3

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬(We won’t be passing up FGs this time. Sanders gets 4 FGs 😉)
    Herd 23-20 🐬(Eternal optimist😉)
    Kong 27-24 🐬

  136. wyoming85 says:

  137. stangerx says:

    Dolphins are 5.5 dogs against the Raiders.

    Place I got that from said the opening line was one point us, but the opening could have been a long time ago. Am sure the line shifted a bunch after Sunday though.

  138. pheloniusphish says:

    Week 3

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬(We won’t be passing up FGs this time. Sanders gets 4 FGs 😉)
    Herd 23-20 🐬(Eternal optimist😉)
    Kong 27-24 🐬
    🐠 35-7 🐬

  139. The Flying Pig says:

    I gave up football after Sunday’s game

    I had some sort of mental breakdown and now I don’t even remember what the sport is

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Consider yourself lucky

    • CavalierKong says:

      Lol, I told my wife after the game I’m not sure how much longer I can keep investing this much emotionally for a once a decade playoff game loss.

      Then I went on to wonder how fans of the Lions ever derive any enjoyment from football.

    • bookman11 says:

      You ARE lucky if you don’t have to remember how we always seem to go through the same thing with this team year after year. My energy level with this team is at an all time low.

  140. son of a son of a shula says:

    Coach hung Deiter on a nail I don’t get it. The center really needs to tell the Tackle to block the guy coming off the edge? Seriously

  141. wyoming85 says:

  142. Tim Knight says:

    That loss yesterday still stings. 😦

  143. Tim Knight says:

    So they found Gabby Petitio dead and they’re searching for the boyfriend.

  144. New Age says:

    The NFL season has been crazy so I’m going to be crazy too. Everything points to us getting demolished by the Raiders. So far…they a a LOT better than us. Better coached, better play, better players. I still think that we find a way to win just like we did against the Rams last year.

    Dolphins 27- Raiders 26.

    Flores, this is the last time I choose you guys against a good team if you don’t deliver. Time to shit or get off the pot.

  145. bookman11 says:

    The at home with Baker Mayfield commercials are some of the best on TV, and a brilliant concept. Imo

  146. steveccnv says:

    How did the Lions get a MNF game?

  147. mf13ss says:

    I’m still pissed off from yesterday’s loss. That game yesterday took the steam right out of my sails.

  148. Randy says:

    I think sometimes we as fans get a little too excited about how good we think our team is. Then, if the team doesn’t meet our expectations… fans are allowed to do….we rip them apart! Lol
    Last year was 10 wins. Nice…but nothing all that great…and against an easy schedule. It’s only a 62.5 winning %. I thought the team showed improvement last year and showed a high compete level, and I like how Flores runs his team. I don’t agree with everything he’s done or calls he’s made, but overall I think he’ll be a good coach in a couple years. I think the last thing HCs learn how to manage is the games themselves. He’s still learning too.
    I thought we’d be a fringe playoff team again this year. The schedule is tougher, and we are still a pretty young, developing squad. Frankly..with this young OL…I thought another 10 win season would be an accomplishment. I’m still just not at the point where I’m worrying a lot about wins. I want to see continued growth and development. Wins will come with those things. It’s kind of a bummer that we really haven’t seen much growth in the team this year yet…but it’s still very early. This is where you find out who your leaders are and what players are competitors. This season will help shape this roster. It’s 2 games against 2 pretty tough division opponents. Some good. Some bad. 1-1 isn’t what you hope for, but that’s divisional football. Work harder and get better.

    • stangerx says:

      A fringe playoff team is still what we are. Nothing really changed on Sunday other than we lost to Bills by more than expected. But then we got crushed by them last game last season. What’s changed? Went 10-6 last year.

  149. mf13ss says:

    So with Tua essentially being day-to-day (man, hurt ribs are difficult to work around, and I’d expect him to be out a couple of weeks), we have NO running game to lean upon.

    Part of that is our lack of a functional O-Line, and part of that is we don’t have a RB who can put the team on his back.

    So basically, Brissett is the one who needs to shoulder the entire load, behind a weak-ass pass-protecting O-Line. Great.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Doesn’t matter if you have an elite RB when you can’t block like we did. Henry in week one did nothing because of the same problem. Then in week two he goes off because they did a better job up front. It all starts up front.

      As for Tua, Flores said it’s about pain tolerance and if his mechanics are good enough and not laboring. I won’t be surprised if he starts this week. He has no structural damage.

  150. mf13ss says:


    I think what hurts most of all is that we were told (via the media) that our 2021 roster was built to stop Josh Allen and the rising Bills. If the media was correct about that, we measured up very poorly to the new kids on the AFC East block, at home during the 1:00 PM start in September.

    • stangerx says:

      If the media was saying that then I never believed it. Walked into the stadium expecting a loss by more than the spread. Unfortunately I was right. They just have our number. And flip side is don’t think other teams do.

  151. Randy says:

    Correct, nothing really changed for me after the loss. But, I did think we would see more improvement from the offense and the OL specifically. The OL looking fairly poor is a little surprising. We’ve seen regression there so far. But, like I said, it’s still way too early to get worried about anything.

    • mf13ss says:

      Regarding our O-Line, we continue to move people around, not allowing 5 to gel. This is problematic.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not really. It’s pretty set with Eichenberg as the 6th man if someone can’t go at tackle. What is problematic is the starting 5 played poorly yesterday.

    • stangerx says:

      OL is the big worry, but then it was coming in. Might have been different if they had a good camp.

      • mf13ss says:

        YES, our O-Line IS the BIG WORRY. We should have been able to identify the best 5 back in camp, though. That’s how chemistry is built.

  152. Randy says:

    I never understand that whole: “build to stop Josh Allen” stuff. I seriously hope this FO would never make significant personnel decisions based on any one opponent. That just makes no sense to me. You build the defense you want to build based on how you want to play. If you’re good, you’ll be able to matchup with anybody. You beat him with good, sound defense. Flores’ defense is built to stop anybody.

    • mf13ss says:

      I concur with you, totally, on the whole “build to stop Josh Allen”.

      However, IF Flores’ Defense is built to stop anybody, what happened yesterday?

    • Tim Knight says:

      We actually did a good job against Allen. The problem was the offense couldn’t compete in the trenches.

      • stangerx says:

        Hard to say we did a good job against any part of their offense after that game. Allen just sorta moved the chains….. and there is a value to that.

      • Tim Knight says:

        We stopped them a few times as well but couldn’t do anything with it. That eventually wears on a team. The Bills were not worried about our offense all day. They attacked our front all day with success. We had very little time to go vertical.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s not just about Allen, it’s about Mahomes and Jackson etc. Teams do build their defenses to stop specific players on teams they need to beat to win the big prize. That’s been going on forever. Back in the day teams were always looking for the MLB to stop the great backs.

  153. bookman11 says:

    I think the “becoming your parents”commercials are hilarious also

  154. Randy says:

    I’m not so sure they haven’t been trying to start the same 5 guys on the OL. Jackson simply didn’t get in the practice reps to play game 1, so they plugged Eich in. Jackson comes back in game 2, and the other guys were the same. Davis gets hurt/sucked and they brought in Eich to replace him and the other guys stayed the same.
    It’s possible they may have wanted to get Eich some snaps in both games anyway. I didn’t see a lot of substitutes on the interior of the OL. So, in 2 games, it’s been fairly stable. My stream died on me, so I missed most of the fourth quarter on Sunday, but I didn’t see a lot of subbing. I’d guess they would love to go with Jackson, Kindley, Deiter, Hunt, and bringing Eich along slowly with Davis filling in where/if needed. They’ve been close.

    • mf13ss says:

      With the exception of Deiter, EVERYBODY sucked on our O-Line yesterday. The Guards are to be scrutinized as much as the Tackles.

      It was the worst-graded O-Line performance by any team in any game since PFF started.

  155. Randy says:

    Lol. Ya got me there! I just meant it appears that Flores wants a fluid, adaptable defense that can be implemented in whatever way he may need to stop anybody. But, it certainly didn’t work yesterday…although I think the defense played fairly well. Our offense just isn’t there yet.

    • mf13ss says:

      I agree, though our Defense could/can/has done far better than what it did yesterday. No, our Offense didn’t do our Defense any favors, either.

  156. herdfan says:

    Week 3

    Rhino 26 – 24 🐬(We won’t be passing up FGs this time. Sanders gets 4 FGs 😉)
    Herd 23-20 🐬(Eternal optimist😉)
    Kong 27-24 🐬
    🐠 35-7 🐬
    New Age 27-26 🐬

  157. Randy says:

    Oh I know how poorly the OL played yesterday. Sadly, I actually watch the OL during games, so imagine how much I was enjoying that shit show yesterday! Lol

  158. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 20, 2021 at 9:14 pm
    Not really. It’s pretty set with Eichenberg as the 6th man if someone can’t go at tackle. What is problematic is the starting 5 played poorly yesterday.
    Bro, then it’s a totally different, and MUCH LARGER problem! If our starting 5 were that bad yesterday (yes, they were), this season is already a shipwreck in the making.

    But I do disagree with ya… we’ve been moving players around left and right on the O-Line and not allowed the same 5 to gel since camp.

    • mf13ss says:

      When I say the same 5, I’m talking about the same 5 at respective postions… not musical chairs with the same 5.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s not true. These guys basically were the guys coming out of camp. Every team in the league cross-trains their OL in camp because they need to know how to deal with injuries in games and during the season.
      LT Jackson/Eichenberg
      LG Kindley
      C Deiter
      RG Hunt
      RT Davis/Eichenberg

      I said during the offseason it may take this young OL 4-5 games to really put it together. Yesterday they were just bad. Doesn’t mean it will be like that every week.

  159. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t even know what football is anymore

  160. Randy says:

    What moves did we make that were supposed to be about stopping Josh Allen? I don’t even know.

    • mf13ss says:

      More SPEED on the Defense. We got rid of the slowpokes at the LB position and added pass-rushers and a BALL HAWK from Oregon.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Front 7 speed but even that is a work in progress. We didn’t lose yesterday because of Allen. When we finally stopped the early bleeding at 14-0, the offense couldn’t get us back in the game. The Bills defense overwhelmed our front on offense. That was the game all day.

  161. mf13ss says:

    CavalierKong says:
    September 20, 2021 at 9:24 pm
    Is that fact or hyperbole? Worst PFF graded performance by an oline ever?
    Can’t find the exact tweet that stated it was the worst performance by an O-Line ever, via PFF stats, but here’s this…

  162. mf13ss says:

  163. Randy says:

    Flores wants a mobile, multiple defense. Lots of teams are going more in that direction. It means smaller, quicker guys on your front 7 overall. That’s not to stop Allen. It’s because if you want to move guys around and change up your packages without completely changing your personnel a lot you need smaller…or let’s say more medium….guys.
    So what if Zach Wilson blows up? Do we starts building our defense to stop him too? Lol

  164. D says:

    I wish they had left the OL wait was last year and inserted new players. Kindley to LG I thought would be an OK move because he played there in college at a very high level but even that move isn’t panning out. Go back to last year Kindley back to RG hunt back to RT, Jackson and Deiter stay and Eichenberg to LG. Hunt and Kindley played well together on that side.

    If they don’t do that then Tim is right we are probably going to have a couple more games at least of this stuff until they start to gel

  165. Randy says:

    It’s gonna take more than 4 or 5 games. I just want to see this OL show improvement throughout the season. Starting next week would be nice.

  166. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 20, 2021 at 9:27 pm
    That’s not true. These guys basically were the guys coming out of camp. Every team in the league cross-trains their OL in camp because they need to know how to deal with injuries in games and during the season.
    LT Jackson/Eichenberg
    LG Kindley
    C Deiter
    RG Hunt
    RT Davis/Eichenberg

    I said during the offseason it may take this young OL 4-5 games to really put it together. Yesterday they were just bad. Doesn’t mean it will be like that every week.
    Correct! We’ve been cross-training nearly all of our O-Linemen to be able to play every position… you aren’t wrong! Nothing wrong with that, until we aren’t having 5 gel in their given positions. But NO, most teams do NOT do what we do, either.

    If it takes our young O-Line 4-5 games to really put it together, it may cost us 4-5 games… and EVERY GAME COUNTS. Almost got young Tua killed yesterday, SMH.

  167. Tim Knight says:

    Here’s another thing to think about. The top 7 OL we’re rolling with are very young and there is no longevity of them playing together. That’s why I said yesterday maybe we went too young too fast. We’ll see how it plays out during the season.
    LT Jackson (2)/Eichenberg (R)
    LG Kindley (2)
    C Deiter (3)
    RG Hunt (2)
    RT Davis (7)/Eichenberg (R)

    That’s how we decided to roll.

  168. Randy says:

    I still think some folks are underestimating how much the veterans like Fitz, Flowers and Karras helped this young offense last season. They simply don’t have that this year.

    • Tim Knight says:

      True, kind of like we decided to let the young birds leave the nest at the same time. Maybe in a couple of years that pays off.

  169. Randy says:

    Gelling or developing chemistry along the OL mostly happens in practice anyway. And what’s wrong with wanting a great OL, dammit? I think the Dolphins owe me that much, at least, for my decades of faithful viewership! Lol

    • Tim Knight says:


      We are a pretty young team overall. As you’ve stated I think last year going 10-6 put many of us fans on the fast track and maybe that is still not the plan. We’re still sticking to build through the draft and deal with the growing pains. The plan from day one since we hired Flores was to build a team that could sustain winning for more than a year or two. We are really still in our infancy.

  170. mf13ss says:

    I really like this guy. He seems to get it regarding our Phins…

    • Tim Knight says:

      Uhhh… he’s a bit of a blowhard who likes to pretend he knows what he’s talking about and likes to hear himself talk. It takes him forever to make a point with his theatrics. He even admits he doesn’t know what’s going on at times. LOL

      This is the new media, novices are now experts.

  171. ocalarob says:

    1st play of the video, you can see the defender on the TE, Tua calls # 82 in motion and pulls him to the other side not recognizing that now there’s a free blitzer on that side, the guy come untouched to sack Tua.
    again on the next play the LBer is not accounted for by Tua, you got 4 guys on that side of the ball rushing! two guys blocking the RB should have picked someone up yet the RB is blocking air. Tua needs to recognize the opposing D better and call out the protection, not simply say hike!

    1:22 mark of the video Tua lets the play clock run down and the whole Bills DL get a huge jump on the play, The DE out quicks Davis to get the sack

  172. New Age says:


    It’s encouraging to see you hopeful for our OL. You may not know, but my question is why did we get and keep so many fragile WRs in a year we are playing Frankenstein with the OL? We paid 10 mill for Fuller and no QB will have time to find him. We kept Albert Wilson and he’s never done shit. He couldn’t be of similar worth to Flowers or a decent backup OL. We are hoping for 10 wins and the OL to gel in time for next year…and an entirely different crop of WRs.

    I just don’t know how Tua will learn how to QB very well running for his life the first 8-9 games. Maybe he turns into Wilson but Russell was a lot better earlier so I have my doubts. Looks more likely he’ll learn the same lessons as Wentz.

  173. mf13ss says:

  174. ocalarob says:

    More excuses for Tua, it’s the lack of recs, now it’s the OL

  175. ocalarob says:

    when you pull your TE in motion to the otherside and the guy that’s covering him doesn’t follow him, being a QB you should know that guy is going to rush, you either roll the opposite way or you call out protection to make your guys aware of the free lber. otherwise you’re going to get sacked.

    it happened multiple times on tua for the limited time he played in that game

  176. ocalarob says:

    i think brissett is way better than tua

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know you do an his 21 points against and 0 for was the same result. What was up with that? 40 pass attempts for 169 yards? What happened? Keep barking up the wrong tree. I’m sure that will cure the problem. LOL

  177. hard to believe there are still trump supporters, he was the worst president in US history

    and to think many believed his stupid lies. WOW

    he didnt drain the swamp steve, he brought mud and reptiles in, nepotism also

    much of trumps staff was arrested, thats not draining the swamp,

    does anyone support moscow mitch saying that the GOP wants the nation to default on its debts?

    wow just wow , the nation cant default on its debts, the trump supporters need to go to financial classes and learn how that all works

    and trump failed to solve the crisis at the border also, he just lied about it, and gullible fools thought he fixed it all

    trump did NOT fix the border, he didnt build a wall that works.

    dont be so damn stupid

  178. and just curious, how did Biden get the pedophile label , and Jeffrey epsteins buddy didnt?

    Do you guys calling Biden a ped, and ignore the minor girls that trump raped think You are smart?

    trump is a pedophile, just like his murdered friend epstein

  179. the capitol building, our votes, and our US government was nothing to the trumpturds on January 6

    they broke and entered, attempted murder, and the self proclaimed patriots, beat cops with American flags, in a futile attempt to cheat and overturn the election and democracy

    thats domestic terrorism, and Anti Americanism, there isnt a way to sugarcoat it, and any president that wants to destroy America and its constitution, is obviously a criminal that should be incarcerated

    it is what it is, thankfully the nation has an American president now

  180. sb7mvp says:

    I finally got around to watching the game and the offense reminded me of watching a Gase led team. No offensive identify, people not executing and out of sync, undisciplined. Turnovers. Also, what’s with the defense giving up a huge run within the first 2 plays of the game again? They just don’t seem prepared.
    I will say that defensive coverage was better Sunday than it was in the Patriots game. Even if the pass was completed the WR was immediately tackled or there was a guy to contest the pass.
    We need to focus on running the ball. We see running as an afterthought in the offense and it was abandoned well before the game got out of hand. Offense continually put the defense in bad positions, and we always seemed to be just there, but never enough. I can’t imagine how frustrating that must have been to watch live.
    Lots to blame to go around, but it starts with our coaching staff.

    • D says:

      I agree with this. Is what it is at this point though just can’t have another one of these and let’s hope Tua is alright. I have seen QBs play the next week with bruised ribs I’ve seen them out a couple of games too. Hopefully it’s the former and he is ok to go. Brissett had never been great under pressure. I remember the LSU game where he was thrown in because Brantley was down, Driskell was down and though we had a decent OL it wasn’t good enough for that pass rush. Brissett came apart. He did it at NC State too. We might as well run wildcat the whole time if the pass rush is that bad.

  181. ocalarob says:


  182. bailbondmike says:

    David, you are a lunatic and a brainwashed pathetic idiot!

  183. wyoming85 says:

    Nope still not going to bite!

    Let’s just say as much as you HATE Trump, Is the level of disgust I have for the socialist movement!

  184. bailbondmike says:

    Going back and looking at the #’s, despite the score, our defense played good enough to beat the Bills any given Sunday.

    It was all on the offense not being able to execute and our HC making 3 bad decisions on 4th down. Those 4th down calls took 3 points off the board and the other 2 gave them very good field position. Three points don’t mean much when you give up 35 but that was in first half where it would have been 14-3. Should have been more than 3 points if not for the turnovers.

    If you told me Allen’s #’s were going to be 17 of 33 (51.5 comp %) for 179 with 2 TD’s and 1 INT before the game, I would have said, “Hell Yeah”. If you told me Allen would rush 5 times for 35 yards and no TD’s I would say, “I’ll take it”. If you take away Singleton’s 46 yard TD run, he only averaged 3 yards a carry and Zack Moss only 3.3 yards a carry. I would take these Defensive #’s every time we play them. Bills barely had over 300 total yards of offense (314).

    The OL failed us, our skill players failed us and our HC failed us.

    • New Age says:

      I agree. The defense almost always delivers at least a workable win. 314 yards doesn’t normally score 28 points much less 35. They had three drives that needed less than 55 yards to score 7. They gave us two TOs. Their offense was poor most if the game. We were given lots of chances to be in this game and our offense and coaching decisions were terrible.

    • D says:

      IMO when you lose that bad it’s got to be considered on all parts of the team. That was a pathetic game. Fails all over, doesn’t really matter if one part failed harder than the other there wasn’t much success on defense either. They just didn’t completely shit the bed.

  185. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      Lost a rugby game 101-3 once. What can you do after other than brush yourself off and get ready for the next one. But will admit was easier after that one cause was a British travel team (like an all star squad) that was like a MLB team playing us as a college team.

  186. stangerx says:

    We’re going into game 3 and one of our beat writers (Crabbs) is suggesting we bench both our starting tackles. Right or not — that ain’t good.
    A recommended start? Getting Jackson and Davis out of the lineup. Miami offers alternatives in both spots thanks to Greg Little and Liam Eichenberg — who would have to be abysmally bad to even sniff the poor level of play we’ve seen from Davis and Jackson to start the year. Of NFL offensive linemen with 50% of the league high in pass sets taken through two games this season; Pro Football Focus grades Davis as the fourth-worst pass blocker in football. Jackson scores as the eighth worst.

  187. wyoming85 says:

    How did 40,000 Haitians swim to south America??????

  188. wyoming85 says:

  189. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      These new practice squad rules give struggling vets a place to land and regroup. Taco was a first rounder in 2017. He’s only 26.

  190. Rockphin says:

    Some discussion above about our O-line being young and hopefully getting better as they age together. I feel the need to point out that our O-line coach is also very young and inexperienced. Perhaps a mistake giving him the reigns, perhaps not. We will see.

    Lem Jeanpierre’s resume:

    Seattle Seahawks
    On July 28, 2017, Jeanpierre was signed as an offensive assistant by the Seattle Seahawks under head coach Pete Carroll.

    Oakland / Las Vegas Raiders
    On April 3, 2018, Jeanpierre was hired by the Oakland Raiders as an assistant offensive line coach under head coach Jon Gruden.[7]

    Miami Dolphins
    On February 20, 2020, Jeanpierre was hired by the Miami Dolphins to be their assistant offensive line coach under head coach Brian Flores. On January 19, 2021, Jeanpierre was promoted to offensive line coach.[8]

    • steveccnv says:

      His biggest problem may be he lacks the cajones to March up to Flores’ office and say, look here, quit messing with my OL, we need some continuity

  191. steveccnv says:

    We also have a C that doesn’t seem to be capable of making the proper line calls

  192. Rockphin says:

    From Barry Jackson

    According to team sources, Solomon Kindley — who started the first two games at left guard — is expected to go to the bench against Las Vegas and rookie second-round pick Liam Eichenberg is expected to be inserted as a starter Sunday, barring another change of heart by the staff during practices this week.

    Austin Jackson is expected to keep his job at left tackle for now, but he knows he must improve. Internally, he graded out as Miami’s second-worst lineman against Buffalo, per sources.

    Per Pro Football Focus, Jackson permitted nine quarterback pressures and at least one of Buffalo’s six sacks and has been one of the NFL’s lowest-graded tackles since the start of his rookie season in 2020.

    Dolphins coaches and officials, this week, privately and briefly discussed the wisdom of two global issues: moving Robert Hunt back from right guard to right tackle and possibly shifting Jackson from left tackle to guard. The sources said both remain on the table as long-term options, but the Dolphins are not expected to execute either of those moves now.

    • stangerx says:

      If they are doing moves like this now and contemplating others….. comes down to the OL is a mess, but guess we already knew that.

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