Mike Gesicki – Will he be the Dolphins Franchise All Time Best?

Before this season begins, there are currently 8 TE’s that have more career receiving yards than Mike Gesicki. Of those TE’s, only 5 of them were drafted by the Dolphins. I’m sure you guys know who the leader is, he was the first TE to come to mind when I woke up and decided to write this article. Randy McMichael is the all time leading TE and he was drafted and played 5 seasons for the Dolphins. McMichael totaled 3096 receiving yards on 283 receptions and 18 TD’s. To me, those are very reachable numbers for Gesicki, but only if he gets a new contract. He’s on the last year of his 4 year rookie contract after being drafted #42 in RD 2 in the 2018 NFL Draft.

The other TE’s, if you’re wondering who are at the moment ahead of Mike Gesicki are Bruce Hardy (Drafted by Miami), Anthony Fasano, Keith jackson, Charles Clay (Drafted by Miami), Ferrell Edmunds (Drafted by Miami), Troy Drayton and Joe Rose (Drafted by Miami). Each season, Gesicki has increased his receiving yards and there’s no reason to expect that trend to stop this season. Throw out the rookie season where he was scarcely used, in his 2nd season he was targeted 89 times and had 51 receptions for 570 yards. In his 3rd season Gesicki’s targets went slightly down from 89 to 85 but he had 2 more receptions and 133 more receiving yards. I think a fair expectation for Gesicki this season would be 100 targets, 60 receptions and 800 yards. That would Mike as #3 All Time for the Dolphins. To me, the most important issue is re-signing Gesicki. Dolphins fans talk about how great our depth is at TE with Gesicki, newly drafted Hunter Long, Durham Smythe, Adam Shaheen, Chris Myarick etc., but no other TE is in the class of Gesicki here, not even close. He’s the guy we have waited for, the guy that has the size, speed, leaping ability and catch radius to beat any player trying to cover him.

If you think I’m blowing smoke, let me compare Gesicki to the best of the best. Travis Kelce was targeted 145 times last season, nearly 2 times more than Gesicki (89). Darren Waller was also targeted 145 times. If Gesicki was targeted that many times this season he would easily surpass all the other TE’s on the Dolphins All Time receiving list and would also make it impossible not to re-sign him. I’m not advocating for Gesicki to be targeted as much as those guys but I do think 100 targets wouldn’t be crazy. I would absolutely hate to see Gesicki move on from the Dolphins. I’m hoping we try and get him a new contract early on, because if he plays to his potential and we feed him enough targets, his next contract is going to be a huge one. Even if that’s the case, keep the best players on your team, especially when you draft them.

He’s worked on his blocking, and while he’s not the best in line blocking TE, the best never are. Travis Kelce doesn’t spend much time blocking and either does Darren Waller. The biggest exception to this would San Francisco 49ers TE George Kittle who may be the best all around TE in the NFL. That guy is a tenacious blocker and also has the receiving talent to break a game open. Kittle regularly gets more than 100 targets in a season, and that’s where I feel Gesicki should be as well. I think Gesicki brings the same qualities to the table that Kelce, Waller, Kittle, Pitts, Goedert and Andrews bring. Kyle Pitts was drafted #4, Gesicki #42. Pitts is faster but Gesicki trumps Pitts with his superior vertical ability. I’m looking forward to seeing Gesicki join the ranks of the best this season with more targets and more production. Pay that man his money!

GO DOLPHINS !!

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1,136 Responses to Mike Gesicki – Will he be the Dolphins Franchise All Time Best?

  1. Rockphin says:

  2. Rockphin says:

    BAM! Page Turn!

  3. Rockphin says:

    It’s a shame that two of the five links to dolphins boards on the right hand column above are “out of business” I never visited “Phins or Die” and I guess I never will now. Dolphins Shout .com can now be purchased for the low low cost of $4,395.00!

  4. Rockphin says:

    Parker off of PUP today and making plays. Yay!

  5. stangerx says:

    “Tua Tagovailoa had another good day. The imrpovement is real, folks, though it’s important to note that practices aren’t in pads and the defense isn’t doing any exotic blitzes.”
    — Barry Jackson on Monday’s practice

  6. stangerx says:

    And here is Jackson’s full article on today’s practice without paywall.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/dolphins-key-player-back-sign-145647227.html

    • CavalierKong says:

      I’m loving that Tua keeps stacking good practices up, but it’s a bit concerning how many of our offensive guys are injury prone.

      • stangerx says:

        Whose been watching from the sideline? — Fulller, Williams and Parker (until today). The exact 3 guys we are worried about and camp just started. 🙂

      • steveccnv says:

        If we’re worried about them, the team likely is to and doesn’t want them hurt in meaningless, without pads, practice

  7. Rockphin says:

  8. Rockphin says:

    lot of focus going to be on the big uglies tomorrow. First day in pads. Get to see how the running game looks with some hitting going on.

  9. Rockphin says:

    Wellllhelllll!!

  10. Rockphin says:

    Try this again

  11. Rockphin says:

    I am really concerned now.

  12. sb7mvp says:

    Let’s hope that Tua doesn’t fall prey to injury in any hot tub incidents.

  13. wyoming85 says:

  14. wyoming85 says:

  15. stangerx says:

    Interesting stat: “Howard was targeted 5.6 times a game vs 4.4 for Jones in 2020.”

  16. The Flying Pig says:

    Don’t worry about Omar’s endorsement

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day

  17. New Age says:

    I’m feeling an article stating Tua was on Omar’s crush list with a few corrections from Omar that he hopes slips by. “I always knew Yua was special but young players need tough love. That’s what Bill Parcells taught me in our many deep discussions about football. “

  18. stangerx says:

    Still can’t figure out why this about politics. Should be a choice made based on health information available to all. Whichever choice you’ve made know you think it was right cause people on this board are impressively smart. But why does the rest of the country just fall in based on party?
    ——————————–
    “31% of self-identified Republicans say they will likely never get vaccinated against COVID-19, according to newly released polling. A bare majority of Republicans – 51% – have received at least one dose.

    In contrast, 92% of self-identified Democrats have gotten at least one shot, and just 2% say they’ll never get the shot.”

    • steveccnv says:

      You tell me why Kamala said, oh hell no, when asked, if she was getting the vaccine, when Trump was president?

      Biden also said he wasn’t going to get it

      • stangerx says:

        That doesn’t address what I was saying. Whatever the medical info would have hoped that the GOP vaccination rates higher and the Dem ones lower. Not talking about which choice is right at all. Only that people are making medical decisions based on what party they are in.

    • steveccnv says:

      These 2 knuckleheads made it political

      • steveccnv says:

        What they say matters

      • stangerx says:

        So people don’t like Biden and Harris and cause they threw shade on the vaccine Trump developed as far as not taking it now Republicans don’t want to take it? Couldn’t imagine living my life like that…. but does show why people are making a political point about an important health decision.

    • steveccnv says:

      The media is political with everything thing they can be, and they lie about 50% of what they say.

      The CDC is as corrupt as it gets.

      When you’re lied to constantly, you tend not to believe anything they’re selling.

      For people to buy into something they must trust those doing the selling, and they don’t buy what they don’t understand

      • stangerx says:

        So basically you are saying they don’t get the vax cause don’t trust the government and the media? Where do they get the info they do trust?

    • steveccnv says:

      On top of that fauci helped fund gain of function, then keeps lying that he didn’t

      He also keeps flip flopping back and forth with the masks

      Just turn off the sound and watch his facial expressions, hard not to say it shows a lyer

  19. New Age says:

    Stanger,

    I don’t know why it’s political. Honestly, if you are older and have medical issues, the vaccine should be a no brainer. If you are younger than 55 and in good health, it’s not really going to do much for you but it’s your choice If you got Covid at any point, then the vaccine is at best a waste and at worst, possibly harmful. Kids and teens should not take it since the SEs are possibly worse than the actual disease.

    On to football, did anyone see Nick Foles promote himself in that interview?! It was amazing and I hope Reich gets him. Watching Wentz cry and whine as Foles takes over again would be golden. I’m damn glad we aren’t the Colts. Wentz is a fragile buttercup and Tua will end up having better numbers in 5 years. Not better in a year, better career-wise lol.

    • stangerx says:

      And that is a logical take based on the data available. Don’t agree with all of it , but can’t say isn’t a position to stand on. And nothing about politics.

      BTW — main thing disagree with is about people under 55 getting the vax. My biggest fear since this started was spreading the thing to someone’s Mom of Grandma. And you can have it and not know it. Even if drowning in my own lungs wasn’t there as a remote possibility still would have got.

      Didn’t catch the Foles interview…. had his on my FF team once though. 🙂

      • steveccnv says:

        They say now that we still can spread it, after being vaxed, so the thing about having it and not knowing, then passing it to someone else shouldn’t be a fear of why you should get vaxed

        That is if you believe anything they say

      • stangerx says:

        That is both true and troubling steve. All the more reason to wear a mask. Covid is a biotch.

  20. pheloniusphish says:

    Know what my biggest problem is right now? I misjudged ratios and I don’t have enough McCallum to finish my cigar! Now I’m faced with putting down the cigar and going inside for more scotch or finishing the cigar without whiskey. Oh, the inhumanity!

  21. pheloniusphish says:

    Seriously, people don’t trust the government and they shouldn’t. Not because there is some nefarious governmental plan to create a totalitarian state, but because the government is run by bureaucrats who are mostly concerned with justifying their own existence. America is not run by politicians. It is run by their staffs. I’ve yet to meet an elected representative with an attention span of more than 15 minutes. You want to get something done, you talk to their chief of staff. Who is unelected.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Dont care if people trust them or not

      But if they run for office and tell people not to trust the government, it’s like a dentist telling people not to trust toothpaste

    • stangerx says:

      When did laws a common move we’d see from opponents would be to try and turn it over to “the bureaucracy.” Pretty much meant not this year cause the consideration, study committee, whatever meant not that year or probably not ever. So get what you mean.

      Our goal was to keep it in the eyes of those elected representatives. On their radar and still in play…even if didn’t mean would get a win. The political system is not a fixed deal on any given issue for sure though.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Non-delegation doctrine went out of favor several administrations ago. Probably about after Bush Sr. maybe Clinton. Been law-making by rule making process and executive order for a long time. Legislative branch has given all the power to the executive branch.

      • stangerx says:

        Guess a bit more sanguine than you, but understand your point. And lots of stuff happens that never hits the news. Many bills that are worked on in a constructive manner.

    • stangerx says:

      And a few months ago we were talking about him as a possible starter.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Shows how much we know.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I didn’t really think he’d be a starter. More like a vet backup who probably wouldn’t even be active on game day, but the guy who would start if there was an injury the next week because he’s not that versatile.

  22. son of a son of a shula says:

    There’s Davis still starting. He’s a machine and they love him.
    Happy for Deiter, nice to see a guy sort of arrive on time. His situation allowed him the opportunity to watch for a couple of years now it appears he’s taking advantage of the opportunity he’s gotten.

  23. son of a son of a shula says:

    Just about every one had Davis cut because of Fluke(r)

  24. son of a son of a shula says:

    Not me, not that I have a certain affinity to Davis but it’s clear to see that they love him. They trust him and that’s why. Good for Davis. Oline careers are interesting you look at any team and guys come out of nowhere and earn long standing jobs.
    We’ll hear from Kindley for sure, when the pads come on.

  25. son of a son of a shula says:

    I really hate that in my own head I call Eichenberg – Eichmann. Maybe I watch too much WWII stuff but it’s shameful and wrong so I hope I never say it out loud.

  26. son of a son of a shula says:

    Want to know the secret of turning $40 into $400?

    Put the forty dollars in your gas tank and go to work

    Saw it as a meme, share with anyone who needs to read it

  27. The Flying Pig says:

  28. Tim Knight says:

    However the OL pans out, the best case scenario would be:
    LT Jackson, LG Kindley, C Deiter, RG Hunt, RT Eichenberg

    Because that means the young guys we drafted are earning it. Yes very young but hey, so is the QB and some of the other skill guys. Grow together.

  29. CavalierKong says:

    Less than two weeks to our first preseason game!! And the HoF Game is in 3 days. Woohooooooooooo.

    Kong family be like:

  30. The Flying Pig says:

    When Phindog shows up

  31. The Flying Pig says:

    Phelon making things weird

  32. Tim Knight says:

  33. The Flying Pig says:

    Tim getting involved

  34. The Flying Pig says:

    Mile E shows up

  35. CavalierKong says:

    This is a very excited blog

  36. The Flying Pig says:

    Son has some moves

  37. The Flying Pig says:

    M13 preparing for the season opener

  38. The Flying Pig says:

    D right before he writes 5000 words without a space

  39. pheloniusphish says:

    David talking about anything

  40. Tim Knight says:

    LMAO!!!!!

  41. The Flying Pig says:

    Bookman when the Grease soundtrack comes on

  42. pheloniusphish says:

    Bookman

  43. pheloniusphish says:

    Manitoba

  44. The Flying Pig says:

    Herd getting ready for week 1

  45. pheloniusphish says:

    New Age preaching the Gospel of Tua

  46. The Flying Pig says:

    You have to use your imagination for this one

    BBMike

  47. The Flying Pig says:

    WY when we score the first TD of the season

  48. CavalierKong says:

    LMFAO

  49. The Flying Pig says:

    SB7

  50. pheloniusphish says:

    SB7 when we score 7.

  51. CavalierKong says:

    I’m kind of annoyed. I thought I’d watch the 2020 Dolphins/ Niners game. I had an email from NFL that my gamepass will auto renew on 08/03/21, and there wouldn’t be an interruption. But when I log in today, it acts like I don’t have a subscription, and it won’t let me subscribe- when I try to subscribe it runs me through a homepage loop.

    So I have no access right now, wtf?

  52. The Flying Pig says:

    Rock refused to dance but still made an appearance

  53. pheloniusphish says:

    ER

  54. The Flying Pig says:

    Twice just chilling but still excited

  55. pheloniusphish says:

    Rhino doing Tom Cruise

  56. Tim Knight says:

    The latest rumors are it seems the Dolphins and X are working on it. 🙂

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Do they have money bc of the fluker settlement?

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t think it’s about that. The cap can be manipulated. I think maybe Steve who seems to understand the cap really well can chime in. Does money up front relieve cap space and push it down the road?

  57. Tim Knight says:

    So I hear tomorrow is the first time the pads go on. Now the football starts, at least to the level that is allowed.

  58. CavalierKong says:

    https://overthecap.com/what-exactly-are-injury-settlements/
    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/dj-fluker-12291/

    According to this, the player and team will agree on a certain number of weeks, and the player will only be paid for that period of time- the money paid out will count towards the cap. We save on the rest of his salary. So we will gain at least some cap space depending on the details of the settlement.

    That article was a good read. I didn’t know anything about the injury settlement process. It saves the team some money, and the player still has an opportunity to sign with another team or re-sign with the original team later that same year if he heals up.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      ” Last year, I even noticed his playbook was condensed to slants and bubbles. They really wouldn’t let him show his arm. ”

      Thank you Chan Gailey. F’n dinosaur.

      • Mike E. says:

        Yup! I also think a lot of this had to do with Tua making safe choices, not all on Gailey

  59. sb7mvp says:

    everybody look at your hands

  60. Rockphin says:

    From Alain Poupart at SI

    First, it sure looks like Michael Deiter is the front-runner to start at center as the 2019 third-round pick looks to return to the starting lineup.

    Liam Eichenberg took first-team snaps at left guard in practice Saturday, and don’t be surprised if that’s where he ends up playing as a rookie, making the same kind of college-to-NFL switch that Laremy Tunsil made after arriving as a first-round pick in 2016.

    It bears repeating that since they gave up a 2022 third-round pick in order to move up eight spots in the second round this year to take Eichenberg, the Dolphins will give him every opportunity to win a starting job right away.

    The right tackle spot for now looks like it will belong to veteran Jesse Davis, though he’s been watching the end of practice from the sideline on a regular basis.

  61. BBM, its amazing you can say great governor and desantis in the same sentence, and even more shocking you claim that Maybe the governor is following science. then you finish with the parents can decide what their children do for safety

    lets explore what desatan feels about science, he mocks it and profits from selling anti medical shirts and hats, so you are dead wrong on that one

    he banned trans athletes in sports, yet FL has never had a trans athlete problem, science there? hardly
    he has done MANY things to ignore, and downplay the covid, his actions have led FL to the very worst state out of 50 states in covid management
    fl is dead last in covid deaths, number 50!
    we can blame Desantis for this!

    FL is not the largest state, but leads the nation in the delta variant, why? mismanagement

    desantis is defunding public schools that attempt safety measures, is that scientific too?, will that help the FL numbers go down? SMH impossible

    desantis is arguing that piney point water didnt cause red tide, even though scientists and marine experts predicted it

    if You like the governor for OTHER reasons, just say so, but believing in science cant be one of them, he is not governing by science]

    • Rockphin says:

      can you go post you political posts on a different blog? It is football season now.

      BBM, maybe, JUST MAYBE, you can scroll past this one and not respond? (steve too?)

  62. bailbondmike says:

    You have to use your imagination for this one

    BBMike
    —————————–
    Piggy, I find it funny cause in my early days my nickname was GQ. lol

  63. bailbondmike says:

    Rock, it’s just a fart in the wind that don’t even smell. No worries. I am ready to hear about some padded practice and, with that, some “big ugly” news.

  64. Rockphin says:

    How many does that make now?? What do we have 20 signed? LOL

  65. Rockphin says:

    I am very interested to see where each of the O-linemen wind up come opening day. I know Eichenberg played LT in college so playing him on the left side may feel natural to him, but like many of you I thought he would wind up at RT. Seems like with many of the younguns the coaches are cross training him. I’ll be watching what the reporters say today when pads go on.

  66. CavalierKong says:

  67. steveccnv says:

    On Fluker contract, his before settlement cap was 1.075m and now it’s 465k, but since he’s now off the top 51 and someone else is on the net charge for Fluker off top 51 is about 385k, lowering our cap to 8.015m

  68. steveccnv says:

    Are you Clark’s serious about the TE signings?

    We signed those TEs, because we kind of need bodies for camp, since at least 3 are out for covid.

    Someone has to line up in practice

  69. steveccnv says:

    Can’t say that I’m sorry Fluker is gone

    He was nothing more than a journeyman OT

    We’ve got some young talented guys I’d rather see given a chance, like Larnel

    • D says:

      Yeah…….but……he was a guy who could handle it opening days stuff let those younger dudes get their feet a little before being thrown to the wolves. It really worked out for Hunt to be handled that way last year. I expect him to at most start for 3-4 games. If he wasnt healthy enough to play i mean its good we didn’t put him in there, but again, it hurts the team not to have a depth with starting experience so i think it sucks but its also not enough to worry over.

      • steveccnv says:

        Davis is a better RT than Fluker, so I didn’t see Fluker starting whether Eichenberg was ready or not

        Would rather have an opened up spot for a young guy

  70. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    July 30, 2021 at 5:37 pm
    Byron Jones is a very cool dude. He’s really smart too.
    ——————————————————-
    Smart enough to know that if it works out for Howard its benefitting him as well.

  71. pheloniusphish says:

    Rock – regarding Eichenberg, LG seems to be logical since as a LT he would have communicated with the LG. So he should know what the position does. They mentioned Tunsil starting at LG – I don’t remember that, but I may have killed that brain cell.

    • D says:

      I dont see why you wouldn’t put Kindley there, he was first team all SEC at LG in college. Yeah he did great at RG but to me move him to LG and Eichenberg to RG if you want to start him at RG. They could also just leave Hunt at RT in that scenario which is my preference, as he played well there last year.

      • D says:

        Davis to me is a great guy and we’d be hella lucky to have him as our primary backup at any of the positions, but there are elite skills in Hunt and Eichenberg id rather have them on the field, though id be fine with Davis starting at RG or RT with Eichenberg being the guy to come in and take the position when they deem fit, hopefully some time this year.

      • steveccnv says:

        We could go round and round on this, they’ll let the best 5 play week 1

      • D says:

        Agreed, im just stating what i would prefer out OL to look like Jackson-Kindley-Skura (yes i think he is better than Deiter)-Davis -Hunt. Like you said though they will field it how they see fit and the best players will be out there so im not concerned over it being exactly that way, thats just how i see the best formation looking. I really liked Hunt at RT.

  72. steveccnv says:

    Our OL struggled week 1 last year, don’t think Flores wants a repeat, so expect Davis starting the season at RT

    • D says:

      If they dont decide to switch Hunt back to RT and continue with him at RG, then yes, they could alternately start him at RG and then let Eichenberg come in to replace him at some point in the season, as i just stated above in more detail.

  73. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 3, 2021 at 10:56 am
    Davis is a better RT than Fluker, so I didn’t see Fluker starting whether Eichenberg was ready or not

    Would rather have an opened up spot for a young guy
    —————————————————-
    I see your perspective, and i dont disagree with it, i like to see the young pups learn to bite as well, BUT depth is depth and if you can have a former starter as depth thats a win, or at least its a confidence booster that they can step in if needed without a big transition.

    • steveccnv says:

      Former starter doesn’t = good starter

      I was shocked watching Ravens tape from 2020 saw Fluker playing his version of Colonblow

      Skura stood out though

  74. D says:

    Davis is a great and consistent player, there is a lot to be said about that but he doesnt have the upper level skill set and he will and does struggle against the more talented players in the league. These younger guy like Hunt (for sure) and Eichenberg (most likely) have higher potential than Davis. I agree Davis starts the season but he shouldnt be starting before it ends. A lot depends on the development of Eichenberg.

    • steveccnv says:

      Ideally I’d like to see Hunt at RG, even though he might be our best RT right now, because his ceiling is higher there.

      It could really do wonders for our running game

  75. D says:

    A guy with the account name “RadioHead69” should have done something like this.

    When we are in huddles
    Can’t ‘t look you in the eye
    You’re just like an angel
    Your skin makes me cry

    You float like a feather
    On this beautiful field
    I wish TE’s were special
    You’re so fuckin’ special

    But I’m a TE
    I’m a just a player
    What the hell am I doin’ here?
    I don’t belong here

    I don’t care if it hurts
    I wanna be like you
    I want that perfect body
    I want that perfect soul

    I want you to notice
    When you drop back to pass
    So fuckin’ special
    I wish I was special

    But I’m a TE
    I’m just a receiver
    What the hell am I doin’ here?
    I don’t belong here

    He’s……. dropping back to pass.
    He’s……. looking my way.
    He……..Throws, throws, throws, throws
    Throooooooooooooows…

    Target who makes you happy
    target whomever you want
    You’re so fuckin’ special
    I wish I was special

    But I’m a TE
    I’m insignificant
    What the hell am I doin’ here?
    I don’t belong here
    I don’t belong here

  76. steveccnv says:

    Soccer has some of the stupidest rules of any sport.

    USWNT playing in the semi’s against Canada, FB goes to clear a ball on the side of the box, Canadian player pusher her, jumps in front of her, and sticks her foot out, then gets kicked by US player. All of this happened from behind the US player.

    Good riddance to USWNT

  77. The Flying Pig says:

    Jessie Davis is the perfect 6th Member of the OL

  78. steveccnv says:

    The pads are on, looks like the DL is dominating

  79. The Flying Pig says:

    This was today

    But this was Saturday

    I just think they are taking advantage of TC to play around and
    Get everyone familiar with different spots

    I hope that Saturday starting OL is where we are heading

  80. steveccnv says:

    Omar has been going off on how great Tua has looked.

    Reason says, Omar is usually tough love for QBs.

    Omar has been in Tua’s corner since draft day, Gerrard anyone?

  81. The Flying Pig says:

    Colts aren’t having a good start to camp

  82. The Flying Pig says:

    • bailbondmike says:

      Needham with some good breakups on a speedy Grant! He continues to elevate his game.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Bc we always Need Ham!

      • D says:

        He’s skilled, but to he gets torched by good receivers, ones that run good routes to go along with good speed. Grant runs bad routs and he had bad hands. No pooping on his skills, like i said he’s a gem we found as an UDFA, but i still think he is a weak spot in our secondary that doesn’t have a ton of weakness right now.

        I kind of wish they would let Iggy go back to his slot position, which he was excelling at last year. Maybe they will need Iggy more for boundary, maybe it was something they expected with Howard, but best players on the field concept says Iggy should probably be in the slot.

  83. wyoming85 says:

  84. wyoming85 says:

  85. wyoming85 says:

  86. stangerx says:

    No mention of X. So guess he’s in there.
    ——————————–
    — After making his training camp practice Monday, wide receiver DeVante Parker was among those missing Tuesday. He was joined on the list of missing players by Will Fuller V, Jaelan Phillips and cornerback Jamal Perry.

    — Running back Salvon Ahmed was at practice after being injured Monday but wearing a red (non-contact) jersey.

    — Wide receiver Albert Wilson practiced on a limited basis.

  87. bailbondmike says:

    Miami Dolphins outside linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel was seen walking off the field and into the team’s training facility late in Tuesday’s practice before it had concluded.

    Van Ginkel appeared to get hurt during goal-line drills toward the end of the day’s work. His initial injury was not seen, but he walked off the field with a slight limp and a trainer alongside of him.

    Van Ginkel has been working with the first team at one outside linebacker spot throughout training camp after a breakout 2020 season where he started 11 games and had 5 1/2 sacks.

    Rookie Jaelan Phillips started camp as the starter opposite of Van Ginkel at outside linebacker, but he missed a third consecutive practice on Tuesday. Brennan Scarlett, signed as a free agent from the Houston Texans in March, got first-team reps on Tuesday in the spot vacated by Phillips, who did some conditioning on the sideline.

    Dolphins wide receiver DeVante Parker missed Tuesday’s practice after being a limited participant on Monday, his first day off the physically unable to perform list. Parker started camp on the PUP list, and on Monday, he did early individual portions of practice but was not seen in team 7-on-7 or 11-on-11 drills.

    Running back Salvon Ahmed, who went down with an undisclosed injury on Monday, returned to practice Tuesday in a red, non-contact jersey. He did individual work but was kept away from team drills.

    All-Pro cornerback Xavien Howard, amid his contract dispute with the team, remained sidelined from practice on Tuesday after coach Brian Flores said Monday he had a setback with an ankle injury. Howard went onto the practice field to watch team portions of practice from the sideline.

    Wide receiver Albert Wilson, one of the stars of the first week of training camp, had a modified day Tuesday, managing workload.

    • stangerx says:

      Guess no X after all. When you go light and fast you do end up with a fragile team it seems. Guess gotta be deep.

  88. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
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    John Jenkins fights off a block to stop Gerrid Doaks for a short gain
    Travis Wingfield
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    Maclom Brown rips through the line for a big gain but a flag is out for holding
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    First play of team — McKinney flies in for a hit on the back in the backfield
    Travis Wingfield
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    Offensive line had a great period in the 1 on 1 drill vs. the DL.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Jaylen Waddle just ran the nastiest of routes in one on ones, put his man in the spin cycle.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Cameron Tom a nice rep in 1 on 1 against Benito Jones. Got the big fella to the ground.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Hunter Long just worked through a reroute of Rowe, drew the flag and caught the TD
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    Seeing some contact in one on one red zone passing. Tua throws an absolute dime over the top of Justin Coleman who was in great position on Albert Wilson, Wilson makes the contested catch.
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    Continue to be impressed by what I’ve seen from Justin Coleman, specifically in these condensed area portions of practice (RZ). He’s got a savvy physical element to his game where he can disrupt without drawing the flag.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Brissett fires one into Hollins who posted up on a curl right at the goal line
    Travis Wingfield
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    Tua and Allen Hurns finding a connection in this drill – couple of tight-window throw and catches
    Travis Wingfield
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    Jamal Perry gets ball production in this drill every day — he’s a had a strong start to camp.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Malcolm Brown pulls in a one-handed catch on a ball in the flat from Brissett
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    Tua goes 3 for 4 in the opening period (3 on 3 WR/DB at the 5-yard line) – had a really nice lofting corner route to Foster at the back pylon
    Travis Wingfield
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    Marino is out here — Tua got some instruction from the GOAT as he headed over for 3 on 3 RZ work
    Travis Wingfield
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    Savlon Ahmed is back out here after exiting yesterday’s practice with the trainers — he’s in a red non-contact jersey, but still a great sight to see.

  89. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
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    Brennan Scarlett had been doing it all week, but now with the pads on, the way he forces outside runs to either bubble or bend back to the teeth of the defense is a treat to watch
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    Tua swings it out to Waddle near the LOS who makes a move and takes off before another move 15 or so yards downfield (tag off)
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    Myles Gaskin is fun to watch – constantly changes the angle on pursuits, good balance and looks to have really worked on absorbing contact
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    Adam Butler explodes through the line and levels the back – loss of 3
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    Gerrid Doaks has a nice, decisive run that sees him get through the front line before lowering the boom in the second level
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    Dolphins front gets some push to give Gaskin a lane — Rob Hunt was engaged at the second level helping to do his part.
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    Back to team work and McKinney flashes in the backfield again. Big part of a strong showing from the defensive front in the run game install period.
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    Waddle does the same a few reps later
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    Jakeem draws oooos and ahhhhs from the crowd with a slick juke move in a 2 on 1 tackling drill
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    What a period that was for John Jenkins thwarting the run game.
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    Benardrick McKinney is having none of the run game right now – A gap out the edge, he’s firing on all cylinders
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    Pads go on and Zach Sieler becomes the immovable force that we’ve grown to know and love.
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    Vince Biegel scrapes a stack built up by John Jenkins for a run stuff
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    Gabe Holmes clears a huge gap with Jonathan Hubbard to spring Jordan Scarlett

  90. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
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    Very meat and potatoes practice today — going to be plenty of OL/DL LB/RB talk on the pod tonight.
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    Jordan Scarlett takes on a hit from Calin Munson head-on, absorbs it, and fights forward to get it across for 6. Hell of an effort.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Brissett dials up play action and Carson Meier is all alone in the back of the end zone – there’s been almost no passing today
    Travis Wingfield
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    Brandon Jones and Clayton Fejedelem team up this time for the run stuff – Raekwon Davis took on a double team to stack it up
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    Jevon Holland wraps around the edge to make in a hit in the backfield and shut down the run short of the end zone (play ran from the 2) – Wilkins, Butler, Davis stacked it up

  91. wyoming85 says:

    For those who don’t have twitter.

    For those that do – Keep on scrolling! 😉

  92. wyoming85 says:

    • wyoming85 says:

      The Miami Dolphins first padded practice of the 2021 training camp just concluded and this is what happened:

      At one point during Tuesday’s practice the Dolphins’ offense lined up in a formation with a fullback and tailback and ran the football right up the gut. Multiple times in a row.

      It looked like something right out of a 1960s clip from NFL Films.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    Thanks for the recap, Wyo!

  94. Tim Knight says:

    Why is the Cowboys training camp in California?

    • wyoming85 says:

      We work on a “don’t ask, don’t tell” philosophy around here! 😉

    • Rockphin says:

      they have practiced in Oxnard for years now. I don’t know why. Jerry built a multi billion dollar stadium and training facility for the season, why in the off season do they go to CA? Don’t know.

  95. Rockphin says:

    scrolling scrolling scrolling though your finger’s swollen keep those pointers scrolling right by

  96. Rockphin says:

    If David is a moaning ’bout Besos or female penis cloning or Orob is a trolling Tua and his throwin just a keep a scrolling on by!

  97. Rockphin says:

    Move ’em on, pass ’em up
    Read ’em up, pass ’em on
    Move ’em on, pass ’em up, on by!
    But ’em out, Hide ’em in
    Hide ’em in, But ’em out
    But ’em out, hde ’em in, scroll by!

    • stangerx says:

      Love the Rawhide in there, but is a communal place. Orob wants to rank on Tua a bunch then he does. People respond or they don’t. But everyone else can just scroll past like you say.

  98. wyoming85 says:

    • stangerx says:

      Has to be something more to the story about what he did than that. Did they draft Cecil Collins 2.0?

      • Tim Knight says:

        The team probably knows he’s guilty.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He turned himself in back in April when it happened so apparently he owned it. Now that’s he’s been indicted the team felt they had to move on from him. Domestic violence is too damaging for sports teams or corporations etc. to sweep under the rug.

      • stangerx says:

        “Gladney, 24, had been accused of hitting, choking and dragging his then-girlfriend across the ground near Dallas during an incident that began in a vehicle the night of April 1.”

        Sounds like Ray Rice 2.0.

  99. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, Gladney is going to prison if convicted which it sounds like he will be.

    • stangerx says:

      That would make the team’s decision more easy. Having read more , my rough guess is that he gets like 6 months plus home release on parole /probation. So yeah he’ll be a FA again.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Would you sign him?

      • stangerx says:

        I’d sign someone like that if he was real good and the price was cheap. If I was GM Kareem Hunt would have been in our backfield the last two years.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not that what Kareem Hunt did was okay, but that wasn’t isolated to just him assaulting a woman, that was a brawl and he was being attacked as well. This one sounds more like what Ray Rice did and we all know he was never on a team again. If what Gladney did was like what Ray Rice did, I’d never have him on my team.

    • stangerx says:

      Trial not done and even when sentence is done haven’t seen what the guy’s attitude is. And we are just one of 32 teams. Unlikely will ever be an issue.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I didn’t mean the Phins signing him, I was just asking if you would if you were a GM of a team. I don’t think we’ll touch him nor do we need him.

  100. wyoming85 says:

    Well there it is!
    Back to wearing a mask indoors at work!

    Vaccinations be damned?????????????????

  101. stangerx says:

    An Axios/Ipsos poll released Tuesday on who unvaccinated people blame for the current Covid surge:

    1 – 37% blame people traveling to the U.S. from other countries,
    2 — 27% mainstream media,
    3 — 23% Americans traveling to other countries,
    4 — 21% Biden ,and
    5 — 10% the unvaccinated.

    You sorta have to give up at that point.

    • Tim Knight says:

      We live in age of overloaded information, misinformation, agendas and statistics. No wonder the trust level is down for so many people. Not just COVID but everything. We went through 4 years of people feeling our president was just like Hitler. Everything is extreme. Everyone barks at each other about everything. I’m right you’re wrong. The end.

      As for follow the science, that’s been compromised too. People use specific science for their own agendas. Just like lawyers in courts use their own professionals to aid their client’s cause. It’s not always about justice and what’s right, but winning. As a society we have amped that up in every phase of life.

      • stangerx says:

        Yep — it’s like truth and logic don’t matter anymore…. only selfish wants of how reality to be. In that same poll 70–some percent of the vaccinated blamed the unvaccinated. Obviously those folks live in two most very different worlds.

  102. CavalierKong says:

    Man, I really enjoyed catching up on the board today and reading a ton of camp stuff. Thanks, Wyo!!

    My thoughts:

    It sounds like today was the defense’s day. When the pads come on the defense brings its game.

    Every time I see Calin Munson’s name, all I can think of is Kingpin “I’d rather be Munsoned out here in the middle of nowhere…”, lol.

    Family Circus- “What’s the magic word to get what you want?”
    “I’m offended.” LMAO!!

    For this being our first practice in full pads, it’s surprising how many guys are dinged up. Hopefully it’s just guys getting bodies into football shape and a sign of intensity, not fragility.

    I get cross training guys on the oline, and I understand we don’t know who will be starting where yet, but it sure would be nice to have a solid starting 5 and let them develop some chemistry in training camp for once.

    Another practice Tua doesn’t throw an INT. He hasn’t thrown one since Wed of last week. Today was all about the run game, but he still threw some balls out there without a pick. Hopefully he can keep up this string of good practices. It’s been great to hear about the improvement, can’t wait to see him in preseason game one!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      It sounded like it was a balanced performance to me. Both sides of the ball won and lost some. That’s the way you want it. Competition.

      The standout player seemed to McKinney though. They said he was all over the ball and in the backfield. I don’t think we should just think he’s a 2-down LB. One report I read said he’ll be out there a lot whether we have 3 or 4 LBs on the field. It doesn’t seem we view him as a 2-down or situational LB. If you look at his tackles per game over 16 games it equals 106. That’s not a guy who comes off the field a lot.

  103. wyoming85 says:

    Sorry I mentioned it!

  104. wyoming85 says:

  105. Tim Knight says:

    I try to talk football but it doesn’t last long. I try to discuss some more in depth stuff and not many care to discuss it. Reality speaks about what people are focused on.

    I’m excited about our team and would love to see more discussions about them. 🙂

  106. Randy says:

    Tim,
    I like the McKinney signing. From everything I’ve read about him, it sounds like he’s a really smart leader of a defense. He will help get guys doing the right things and making the right adjustments….and that’s no small thing in a defense like Flores runs. But, he isn’t very good in coverage. He simply isn’t that sort of LB. If he’s in on 3rd downs, I still don’t think they’ll ask him to cover a lot. If teams can start taking advantage of him on 3rd downs and MAKE him cover somebody, then I don’t think he’ll stay in on 3rd downs much. All the video I’ve watched of him after we signed him doesn’t show much of any coverage skill. 15 years ago, maybe but not in today’s NFL. I still think he can make this defense better though. He should help our run defense immediately.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Thanks so much Randy for discussing the finer points of football. 🙂

      McKinney not being a top cover guy doesn’t mean he’s not on the field attacking the LOS. We act like he’s just a thumper ILB. He can also blitz and be a part of stunts. He’s a big LB at 6-4 255+ with long arms and good speed. We may have him on the field when it’s not Van Ginkel or say Phillips, or over Biegel. I don’t think we’re viewing him properly.

      I think the team views him as a Dont’a Hightower type LB. He’s not a very good cover LB either.

  107. son of a son of a shula says:

    I like the McKinney signing too.
    Thump Thump
    He’ll stay on the field on third down as a pass rusher he won’t be covering anybody

    • Tim Knight says:

      McKinney is a seek and destroy LB. He reminds me of the type of LBs the Giants had back in the 80’s – big, physical with good speed but not necessarily cover guys. Today’s game utilizes so much quickness you’re not gonna have LBs like him covering them. He’ll drop in zone from time to time. But we’re not going to say go cover Travis Kelce all day. LOL

    • The Flying Pig says:

  108. son of a son of a shula says:

    Mt Kindley fixin to erupt, 66 not going quietly

    Bout the time he pancakes Raekwon Davis things gonna change y’all

  109. The Flying Pig says:

    I wanted to draft McKinney

    And I know I’m not the only one here who was high on him in the draft

    Maybe D too? He always wants to draft the SEC

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s panned out as a proven LB in the NFL. He only played in 4 games last year due to a shoulder injury so he’s kind of under the radar. The guy has been very good when he’s on the field for 6 seasons. He was part of the Texans being a really good defense when they were. He really had nothing to do with last year.

  110. son of a son of a shula says:

    I am fired up Piggs and I appreciate you putting me in your little showcase, you guys did a great job.
    The ball is jumping off Tua’s hand, with so much speed, so much opportunity
    Defense should be insane with freshly resigned and fired up X. Ball out.

  111. son of a son of a shula says:

    Alright Naples
    Alright DrG
    Alright Woody Woodpecker ( I forgot your name since you changed it)
    You can come out now Football has started

  112. CavalierKong says:

    https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2021/08/03/benardrick-mckinney-shines-as-dolphins-embrace-the-trenches-at-camp/

    “Miami, generally speaking, took the air out of the ball at practice today. With the pads on, it was a great time to focus on the trenches and the intensity of full contact as a part of the team’s evaluation process. There’s been plenty of high-flying action in 7 on 7s to this point in training camp but today was dedicated, unofficially, to winning in the trenches.”

    “McKinney and the rest of the front seven won the day.”

  113. CavalierKong says:

    Some Skura stuff:

    Center Matt Skura – who started 51 games at center for Baltimore over the past four years – expressed no frustration or disappointment about playing with the second and third team during the first six practices of camp. Michael Deiter has been the starting center every day, and Cameron Tom got some second-team work on Tuesday.

    “It’s always about competition,” Skura said. “That’s one of the reasons why I signed here. Nothing is just going to be given to you. Even when I’ve started a bunch in Baltimore, like every season you wipe the slate clean. You’ve got to earn your keep.”

    Skura said he worked all offseason to fix the snapping problems that led to his benching in Baltimore last season and believes he has solved it.

    “Pretty much since January, almost every day, I’m trying to get snaps just because yeah, it was an issue last year,” he said. “I felt like going into this camp, I’ve definitely been able to turn that corner and now I can just focus on playing football and having fun. It’s definitely been something I’ve been working on and something that I just want to continue to be consistent with.”

    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article253224973.html

  114. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, the reason people slept on McKinney was 2020 and Bill O’Brien destroying that team the last two years. We don’t know what the Watson situation is yet, but they are headed as the new team tanking for someone. They had a fire sale and are totally in rebuilding mode. All their best players are gone.

  115. Tim Knight says:

    I find it funny when teams rotate players in camp especially on the OL and reporters think it’s significant – 1st, 2nd and 3rd team. How many years have we seen this with teams looking to see how player groupings work together? They’re looking for the top 5. It happens every fuckin year. LOL

    Our situation is very young. Competition! Fluker already couldn’t stick.

    • CavalierKong says:

      It especially happens when your oline has been pretty bad so it is in constant flux like ours has been the last decade. The difference this year is once we get that starting 5, we may actually have 4 or even 5 starters that carry over for some years.

      I think it’s hilarious that reporters have basically already cut Kindley since he’s been working with the 3s, lol.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He’ll be with the 1s again this week and the reporters will have to change their panties. LOL

        It’s training camp!!!!! All these reporters who have said I’ve been covering this team for this many years etc. still fall into the amateur trap every fuckin year. LOL

        Coaches look at combinations of players. How else would you know who’s the real deal? This guy is good no matter who he goes against. That’s how the Gaskin, Seiler and Van Ginkel types earn their stripes.

  116. son of a son of a shula says:

    If Skura doesn’t start he’ll be cut he wasn’t brought here to be a backup he’s here to measure Deiter’s progress. The yips sour confidence sad but true.

    • CavalierKong says:

      He’s only got 400k guaranteed…

    • Tim Knight says:

      There is something to that. Don’t know enough about our depth at center though. But definitely rooting for Deiter because we drafted him. I think a lot of us all wanted to see him be a part of our OL as a 2019 3rd round pick. It’s his 3rd season. Maybe he’s in his zone or he’ll be a crotchety 25 year old in September as father time clicks away. 😉

  117. Randy says:

    You start games…you don’t start practices. They’re still trying to figure out the OL. That’s what practice is for. Find those 6 or 7 guys you can rely on and get guys experience at multiple positions because it’s rare these days for a team to play 5 OL all season long.

    • CavalierKong says:

      You’d think our media would be used to seeing these guys all over the place in training camp since we’ve been dealing with this for years. Sure, if you’re Cleveland you don’t have Conklin, Bitonio, and Tretter working with the 3s, lol.

      When you’re the Dolphins, and you don’t have a single starter penciled in at any oline position yet, you mix and match because you have to figure out what you have, lol.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Absolutely! OL need to do more than one thing. We hear that from every coach every year. Lots of position players need to do more than one thing. That’s how we get to 53.

      The youth we have is the key. They are the foundation. We’ve got some solid vets, but the youth is where the special is supposed to come from.

  118. Mike E. says:

    I’m hoping Deiter wins the C job. Never cared for the Skura signing. Also hoping Eichenberg can win the RT job, nothing against Jesse Davis.

    Jackson – Kindley – Deiter – Hunt – Eichenberg

  119. pheloniusphish says:

    Can’t wait for the Atlanta pre-season game.

  120. we have about 5 more weeks, september 12 is the first game of the season , in NE

    cant wait for the FIns to get their first win of the season, and a division rival makes it all the more sweeter!

  121. on the sixth day of practice, Albert part time wilson practiced sparingly,

    hes nursing an injury, and nursing a paycheck that he cant earn,

    its incredible that the team keeps paying him, he is the most injury prone WR i have ever seen, or known of
    the team is deep at WR< im hoping for the good of the team WIlson gets cut

    because the final 53 will be the final 52 if Wilson makes it, obviously he will be injured all season as usual

    • bailbondmike says:

      “Wide receiver Albert Wilson, one of the stars of the first week of training camp, had a modified day Tuesday, managing workload.”

      Not an injury. He balled his ass off all the first week. Coaches were giving him a little break since they were focusing mostly on the run game.

  122. Rockphin says:

    I think you guys MAY be discounting the Kindley’s “Demotion” too much. Coaches do use “starts” in practice as a motivator sometimes. Yes, they are mixing and matching trying to find the best 5. Yes, it is just practice. However, we don’t know if it is a message from the coaches or just a random coincidence of the shuffling. I haven’t read anywhere that his spot on the 53 is in jeopardy only that he may get passed up as a starter.

    Hopefully everyone is “right” when Kindley takes the motivation and uses it to work his way back into the starting 5 and the defenders can say “see they were just mixing things up cross training” and the others can say “see, the motivation worked”

    • D says:

      Wouldnt you be equally reading too much into it? Just sayin. He hasn’t had a chance to “lose” or “win” the job, so why would he go from a player who played well last year to losing the job this year? Most likely they are playing people for the idea that everyone has to win their position, and most likely they are trying different lineups at the position where competition still exists (ie all positions outside of LT) i dont know how you could see it one way or the other, as much as we might be playing it on the cup half full you are certainly suggesting its half empty instead and at this point its just observational based upon very limited knowledge of what’s going on behind closed doors.

      • Rockphin says:

        I did say MAY and even capitalized it! I am not arguing that up is down or left is right. I was just pointing out that just because he started last year doesn’t necessarily mean there isn’t SOME SPECIFIC REASON the coaches have moved him to the 2’s &3’s. Just a pump the brake warning, not an argument that I am right and others wrong. The entire discussion is speculative. THAT was my point.

  123. Rockphin says:

    Wilson will absolutely be on the 53. He has been consistently the most explosive WR in camp this offseason.

  124. bailbondmike says:

    I like what I’m hearing about McKinney. To bad he will be a F/A next year and doesn’t look to be in our long term plans or we would not have redone his contract this way.

    • D says:

      Maybe we reworked his contract and extended him at the same time, what were the details or the re-work? Most the time it comes with an extension to spread the money over.

  125. Robinhood stock popped the second sec breaker this morning, lol the buyer volume is overwhelming the system!

    im up 130 percent in 4 days on $HOOD

  126. steveccnv says:

    Think at times the beat reporters just report what they see at camp…so and so was on the second team today, then moved to third team

    Then someone reads it and says, don’t they know it’s just practice and they’re moving guys around to find the best fit?

    Surely Omar likes to stir the pot at times, but we can’t take it for granted he does it every time.

    WTFDIK, just think we read things in at times, that aren’t there

  127. Rockphin says:

    BBM, I think that is curious too. Why cancel two years off the contract? They WERE going to owe 8.75M next season and 9.5M in ’23. Now we are paying him 3M this year and he gets to shop his talent next season.

    I guess they turned it into a “show me” season.

  128. bailbondmike says:

    D, like Steve said. McKinney had 3 years left on his contract worth up to 27.5 mil We restructured his deal to 1 year at 3 mil and now will be a F/A in 2022.

  129. steveccnv says:

    The McKinney restructure sure was strange, especially a guy that seems to have been brought in to be our Hightower type of run stuffer, and can do everything above avg, except cover.

    Wonder, if his injury from last year is still a concern.

    But he sure tore it up yesterday

    Just don’t get

    Would be nice, if one of our dickheaded beat reporters would ask Flores

  130. wyoming85 says:

  131. wyoming85 says:

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    On changes in LB room this offseason — it’s a group that works well together. They’ve all got a different skill sets.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
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    On Xavien Howard: Moving in the right direction.
    Travis Wingfield
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    On players using their platform to help people: it’s very important. Guys have worked extremely hard to get to this point. They should use their platform to speak out about the things that are important to them.
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    Van Ginkel will be out today. He’s day-to-day.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Coach says training camp scuffles are a good opportunity for guys to learn how to keep their poise — says everyone knows that the guy who reacts is usually the one who gets the penalty.
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    On Tua’s deep ball growth: Coach says it’s something Tua’s placed an emphasis on, they’ve placed an emphasis on as a team. We want to take advantage of the opportunities when they’re there with regards to pushing the ball down the field.
    Travis Wingfield
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    Even at this stage of camp, when guys could be cheating drills (coach says yes it does happen), there’s still an opportunity to evaluate technique and fundamentals. A player might think it was clean but they can sometimes see when guys anticipate things they’ve already seen.
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    On when you switch from training camp mindset to preparing for a game: in a normal year, probably three days before. He says he likes training camp practices. (Normal year meaning without the joint practices). Not trying to out-scheme but just evaluating guys.
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    On Jakeem Grant: There’s a lot of value in having an explosive returner who can flip the field and even score. Jakeem is very explosive and productive not only as a returner but as a receiver as well. We’re happy to have him. There’s a lot of competition in that room.

    • steveccnv says:

      On Grant, is he trade talking him up?

    • steveccnv says:

      They should use their platform to speak out about the things that are important to them.

      Don’t agree, because it’s bad for business, but if they must, they really need to be better educated on the facts and so far they haven’t done that.

      Most of them have been lazy, just regurgitating the narrative

  132. steveccnv says:

    With McKinney and Phillips we seemed to have fixed our 2 biggest Qs on D, but there’s still one thing that lingers even assuming X plays this year, and that’s Xs production coming close to last year’s.

    Repeating his 10 ints is very unlikely, but if he isn’t close in ints, because they aren’t throwing his way, that might be better.

    If they aren’t throwing at X or Jones we’ll have WRs 1 and 2 shutdown, that leaves the rest of the back 7 to focus on the other 3 receivers and if the pass rush is getting it done those other 3 may be reduced to 1 or 2.

    What we’ve seen so far in camp is a leaky secondary, does that change with the pads on?

  133. CavalierKong says:

    I didn’t realize that was how Mckinney’s restructure went. That seems pretty odd to take a paycut and drop two years off the contract. Well, good for us, he’ll be highly motivated this season.

  134. CavalierKong says:

    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article253246343.html

    The man breaking down the huddle of Miami Dolphins receivers before Tuesday’s practice? Not DeVante Parker or Will Fuller because they’re still nursing injuries. Not Jaylen Waddle because he’s a rookie.

    It was veteran Albert Wilson. And he did it in appropriate fashion.

    “Playmakers on three,” Wilson implored the group.

    Makes sense. Because as receivers who were NFL starters in past years — Parker, Fuller, and second-year receiver Preston Williams — have missed a majority of the Dolphins training camp so far, Wilson has been present for all of them.

    And he’s been the most explosive playmaker on the field.

  135. CavalierKong says:

    Here’s what else Flores said on Wednesday before the seventh practice of training camp:

    ▪ Flores downplayed Christian Wilkins playing behind Zach Sieler in two of the first three days of practice.

    “He always had juice, sometimes too much juice,” Flores said, smiling, of Wilkins. “We like Christian’s energy, his juice, his theatrics. There’s ones, there’s twos. Everyone is competing. Sieler has done a good job. We’ll continue to roll guys against different players. Both guys are working hard. Pleased where both guys are.”

    ▪ With the addition of Adam Butler, Flores seems comfortable with the number of pass rushers he can rotate in and out on his defensive line.

    “Our guys are in good shape; it’s hot,” he said. “Our ability to roll guys in and out of the game is important. I feel good about that group. Adam is tough, smart, loves to play, competitive. He fits in well with the group, good communicator.”

    Butler has played with the second team throughout camp. He’ll likely get a lot of snaps.

    ▪ Receiver Jakeem Grant, in a battle to make the roster, drew praise from Flores. Jaylen Waddle’s addition could make Grant expendable.

    “There’s a lot of value having an explosive returner,” Flores said. “Good field position. We all see the value in that. Jakeem is very explosive, productive, not only as a returner but as a receiver as well. We’re happy to have him. There’s a lot of competition in that room everyday.”

    ▪ Flores doesn’t mind the chippiness at practice this week.

    “It’s a chippy game. It’s also a game where you have to keep your poise. It’s something we talk about as a staff. We know somebody is going to do a little too much. Your natural reaction is to react, fight back.

    “We have to keep our poise, we have to practice that. Inevitably there will be some kind of fight on the field. We have to learn from it and get better. We try to use it as a learning experience because if it happens in the game, it could be costly.”

    Linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel, who left practice with a slight limp on Tuesday, sat out Wednesday’s session. Flores called him day to day.

    ▪ Xavien Howard (ankle) remained sidelined. Will Fuller (foot) and Jaelan Phillips (lower body) also were not practicing, though Phillips was working on the side.

    Flores has indicated the Fuller injury isn’t serious, but he has missed a week and is doing no conditioning on the field.

    Running back Malcolm Brown and cornerback Cre’Von LeBlanc were not immediately spotted by reporters.

    Teams have contacted the Dolphins about Howard, but no team has offered what the Dolphins would consider to be enough in compensation to strongly consider it.

    ▪ DeVante Parker (hamstring) returned to practice.

  136. steveccnv says:

    Vets sitting out during camp doesn’t bother me, especially on D, because they don’t need the mental reps, just some physical reps to get ready.

    If they aren’t on the field they won’t get injured there

  137. sb7mvp says:

    Forget all these practice tweets. I want to see this team on the field for real already. I want us to put the Womack on the Patriots week one and never look back. All these rookies need to ball out too. Holland, Waddle, Phillips, Long and all the low guys too. I need Doaks to get in there and be like Bo Jackson Techmo Bowl.

  138. The Flying Pig says:

  139. stangerx says:

    Maybe one of you guys can explain this. In Phins years past it was always about the LG being the athletic one. The guy who can pull and get down the field and block. Kindley has been projected at LG most of the offseason, but he ain’t that guy. Do we have a different OL scheme now?

  140. Rockphin says:

    DOOMED!!

    Kicker Jason Sanders, an All Pro last season, had not missed a field goal attempt until Wednesday when he hit the upright on one of his attempts.

  141. CavalierKong says:

    My gamepass still isn’t working. I guess it takes them a f^cking week to auto-renew or something. If you ever want to see how not to set up a help submission workflow, try the NFL.com site. They suuuuuuuck. I finally found the right page and submitted an email request, but good heavens that had to have been purposefully set up to be one giant wad of suckass to dissuade people from submitting, smh.

    My favorite part was after I finally submitted a request, I received an email that said to reply to their email with literally all the exact same information they already asked for in the original help request (username, email, location, where purchased). Seriously this is what it says:

    Our staff will review this request (1258421) soon. To help us help you more quickly:

    troubleshoot, then, if that doesn’t work,
    provide as much info as possible regarding your request in a reply to this message,

    include the correct NFL.com account username and associated email address,

    include your actual current location and the location where any subscription was purchased, and mention if you are on a US Military base abroad,

    don’t create a new ticket about this issue, as it will confuse our service flow, and

    leave out passwords, any billing information, and any financial statement images,

    read through any suggested articles below right away.

    Go f^ck yourself NFL.com, you lily-livered, turd guzzling, a$$pirating, inbred, bloodsucking, dog-kissing, snake licking, brainless, dickless, overstuffed, ignorant, stiff-legged, spotty lipped, worm-headed, c^cksmoking sack of monkey shyte wankers! Holy shit! Where’s the tylenol?

    • stangerx says:

      I always try to get someone on the phone. Things tend to get resolved much more quickly that way even if sometimes have to find the right way in.

      Nothing was working at my old place after we moved offices no matter what we tried for days. My old boss internet searched and found the mother of their top tech guy and kept calling her while they said “wait your turn.” All of a sudden stuff happened and we were up and working. 🙂

      • CavalierKong says:

        Good luck finding the right number to call, and then working your way through whatever tree they have to get to the right place. You’ll probably find a couple of numbers, spend 20 minutes going through their phone trees just to find it’s the wrong number.

      • stangerx says:

        Didn’t say it was easy man….. just quicker once you find that right person. Guarantee they have live people taking new subscriptions. A place to start.

    • Rockphin says:

      spotty lipped? A little strong no?

  142. Rockphin says:

    Streak is over. DOOOMED I SAY!! LOL

    Rookie Jevon Holland picked off a Tua pass downfield for Wilson that was overthrown.

  143. Rockphin says:

    Man, you have an autistic sun and two 6 YO daughters. You better be “taking it to them” In video games still. LOL!

    • stangerx says:

      Never been one, but man do I admire the love and effort parents give. When you have a a kid like that my admiration pops up to a whole nother level. Makes me feel guilty for not thinking Grant makes the team.

  144. CavalierKong says:

    stangerx says:
    August 4, 2021 at 2:23 pm
    Didn’t say it was easy man….
    ——————-

    Stang, the whole point of my rant was that it isn’t easy. Why are you telling me another not easy way to get my request in? lol

    Honestly, I’m not really that upset, I’m just playing it up. I’m used to red tape and bureaucracy. I’ve been dealing a lot with healthcare lately with my mother, so this is a piece of cake, lol.

  145. Rockphin says:

    WE GOT NFL FOOTBALL (kinda) TOMORROW NIGHT!!!

  146. Rockphin says:

    I am very disappointed to hear that Iggy has not upped his game enough and is still wildly inconsistent. In ‘Mondo’s article today he says that even McCourty is being switched from Safety to #2 corner in front of Iggy.

    • stangerx says:

      McCourty has the vet privilege. And could be they just wanted to give Holland the starting FS shot, which would be disappointing if he didn’t settle into given he was a safety drafted that high (1st S taken). Iggy got drafted higher but big difference with a CB, but yeah doesn’t seem to be showing.

  147. twicethethe says:

    Kong – did they get it working yet? One thought if they haven’t…if you have auto renew set up and the credit card they have on file has an old expiration date, that could be the culprit. Happened to me once with them. Updated the expiration date and good to go.

  148. Rockphin says:

    For SB7MVP

  149. Rockphin says:

    LOL EVEN BETTER! The Miami Miracle in Technobowl

  150. wyoming85 says:

    • Rockphin says:

      I wish I could find the tweet now. Forget who tweeted it, but it went something like

      “the Dolphins offense is trying this new formation today, it has a full back line up behind the QB and a half back lined up behind the full back….ground breaking

  151. wyoming85 says:

  152. CavalierKong says:

    Twice, no such luck. I am currently mired in the 3rd circle of support center hell along with thieves, people that say ‘exspecially’, and ashholes who take their shoes and socks off on planes, lol.

  153. mf13ss says:

    Greetings from VA Beach

  154. mf13ss says:

    Pigster, thanks for the Boba Fett gif the other day!

  155. mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    August 4, 2021 at 1:57 pm
    Maybe one of you guys can explain this. In Phins years past it was always about the LG being the athletic one. The guy who can pull and get down the field and block. Kindley has been projected at LG most of the offseason, but he ain’t that guy. Do we have a different OL scheme now?
    ————-
    Remember, Tua’s a lefty. So left is right and right is left, bud.

    • D says:

      they run as many counters and traps from one side as another, and Kindley is surprisingly fleet of foot despite his size. Again, he played LG in the most competitive college football environment at an first team level. There isn’t anything that would prevent him from playing well at that spot. Right side Left side concepts are out of the windows these days, they have to be to mix up the playbook and keep the D guessing.

      • mf13ss says:

        Yeah, I don’t disagree with ya on that in the new era. I was only speaking in the traditional sense.

      • D says:

        I think traditions are pretty gone at this point, just like x y z receiver, HB/TE blending, just so much has evolved these things kind of lost their meaning. Hell RT is as important as LT these days and maybe even more so to us. Offenses dont use ZBS or Power blocking, they have flexible styles, some hybrid even, RB and TE’s lined out wide, which never happened before, just a whole gaggle of different things have changed to where i doubt there is one offense thats traditional in many if any ways.

      • stangerx says:

        Great takes on it by you guys and thanks. I was thinking answer might be we just weren’t really doing the designated pulling guard in this OL scheme, but was just a thought. Especially cause not seeing Hunt as all that nimble and quick either.

      • D says:

        Kindley is huge but he is cat like. Like Wilfork dude had a belly that made him look like he has always just eaten a couple of children, but he was fleet. Kindley isnt straight line fast but his foot movement means he can get down the line quick. I dont think he is a liability in running those plays. Hunt is actually pretty fast, or he has amazing technique, maybe a good balance of both. He made protecting against Bosa and Mercilus look like he had been doing this for years. I was really impressed with him that game. It seemed to me he had the most issues with guys who could flip a speed more into a power move, like he kind of got himself a step ahead of them so when they flipped to a power move he didn’t have the position/leverage to fend them off. He struggled against Williams and the Jets. Even just straight up power moves he didn’t seem like he had leverage and Williams just walked him up until he lost leverage.

      • D says:

        Ill quote Gimli on Kindley. “We dwarves are natural sprinters! Very dangerous over short distances!”

  156. D says:

    I know everyone wants to play with the new Shiny toy in Eichenberg but we havent seen anything of him yet, they literally just had the first pads on practice, and OL nor DL can be evaled in non pads practices. I dont know who winds up playing where, other than its where the coaches choose to put them and who they choose to start. I also dont know if that changes before the end of the year, again, coaches know their plan, i dont so its gonna be, like Rock said, the best group of the best players. Nothing that has happened so far solidifies anyone at any spot except maybe Jackson because he really doesnt have a guy challenging him for anything. The rest of the spots are at a point of competition and the best man will be in there, just trust the process.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It would just be good if Eichenberg won a starting job. However the best 5 whoever they are will have earned it.

      • D says:

        I think what most like about them starting right off is it validates the pick and if they dont people get nervous about the pick. Just gotta learn to let the process take its time.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I agree. You know me, I’m patient. 😉

      • stangerx says:

        Want Eich to win the starting tackle job. If he ends up at guard long-term then we drafted him too high. And Davis can play guard.

      • mf13ss says:

        Right there with ya, Stanger. Hope that Eich wins a starting Tackle position.

      • D says:

        I doubt if he starts at RG he would stay there but its probably a lot better if he starts inside if we want him to play right off. If we are willing to let him cook a few games, then transition to RT then straight into the OT position sounds ok. I still think Hunt has shown to be good there, better than other we have on the team, so if i were them it would be a battle for RT between he and Hunt, both spend time playing RG as well and then one goes one spot one goes the others, and Davis holds it down for Eichenberg until they deem him ready. Not forcing round peg into square hole, just take the time to find the right spot.

  157. D says:

    I love the draft, but the one thing i dont like about it is when we get new players everyone wants them in there over this guy or that guy, and really what it boils down to is we get so wrapped up in the new beginnings aspect and the hope of these players that most of us follow at least a full year before the draft, that we are kind rooting for a player to play so we can watch them than we are the team fielding the best player.

    • Mike E. says:

      I always want drafted players to succeed. No better way to build a great team than to draft well and have them become successful NFL players. Any time you have to go outside of the draft whether it’s a trade or FA there is the likelihood of overpaying or giving up too much in a trade. I would also selfishly like to see a young line of Jackson – Kindley – Deiter – Hunt – Eichenberg because they can play together as a unit for a long time.

  158. stangerx says:

    “Yeah, I mean, I’ve never thought about being traded or anything like that. I want to be here. Of course I want to be here. I’ve been here six years, and I wouldn’t have agreed to an extension if I wanted to be somewhere else. I love being here. I’ve got a lot of good friends here, and so my main thing is just continue to go out there and show what I got.”
    — Jakeem Grant, who seems like a good guy.

    • D says:

      Yeah i have always liked the persona of Grant, always smiling, loves life it seems, and seems to be excitement to ever day. Id hate losing him, the person and for the most part the kick returner, but god those fumbles are scary. It literally is a hold your breath moment when its late int he game and we really need a spark and the ball is kicked to him and its like he could literally win this or lose this right now with a homerun return or a fucking fumble that will put the nail in our coffin.

  159. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, why is drafting an OL in the 2nd round who could end up at guard taking him too high?

    • D says:

      Well and wasn’t Hunt a 2nd rounder? Isn’t it going to be the same scenario if we kick Hunt inside for Eichenberg to play outside?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I will say this though. When I was posting our draft picks for next year the other day I did not realize we traded our 2022 3rd to move up to draft Eichenberg. So we do not have two 3rd round picks, just the one we got from the SF trade.

    • stangerx says:

      Cause least in my mind we were set with Kindley and Hunt as the guards for years to come. And then we traded up hard in the 2nd to take a tackle. And both those future guards have been lining up at guard in camp. And yeah tackles go for more.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Kindley and Hunt are potentially set at guard but far from years to come. I think Eichenberg will eventually be a tackle for us though.

      • stangerx says:

        I really like Kindley and Hunt…..why do you think might not be the future?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not enough body of work to say they are the long-term answers yet. But I’m hoping they are.

      • stangerx says:

        I saw enough last year to think both will be kick-ass guards, but only my opinion of course. My only concern is Kindley staying in shape.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Are there concerns about Kindley staying in shape or is it just that he’s very big and that’s why people think it’s an issue?

      • stangerx says:

        It’s been brought before in the press Tim, but not sure if for the reasons you mention. Might be nothing, but then he’s been playing with the back-ups a bunch this camp too.

  160. D says:

    Yeah Hunt actually went at a higher draft position by 3 picks than Eichenberg yall should be pulling for Hunt lol.

  161. D says:

    If yall don’t think Hunt did a great job last year, go back and watch a few of his games against some beastly DL’s and then tell me why you want him inside and Eichenberg outside.

  162. pheloniusphish says:

    Cav – How you going to BBQ and smoke come January when the new pork laws go into effect in California?

  163. D says:

    Ok let me may my formal argument. Just for reference I’m using NFL.com’s player reviews for both as reference.

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/robert-hunt/32004855-4e36-0894-8461-dd1b950e2536

    Just based on measurements, Hunt has longer arms and bigger hands, both are traits that benefit an OT more so than an OG. His strengths of size with athleticism, That along with the other pluses they mention show he has great technique at the position as well. He does have experience at OG so maybe we benefit as a team of having him there, if Eichenberg cant play there, but overall if you look at his strengths, you see OT and when you look at his weaknesses you see weak at OG.

    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/liam-eichenberg/32004549-4320-7645-4976-bd415010c029

    Smaller hands, shorter arms are both things that wouldn’t hurt him as much at OG. Lots of positive marks as a run blocker as far as turning the guy he is blocking out of the running lane, good upper body control, etc. These are attributes that could make him a really good OG. Likewise his shortcoming all were pointed at the pass protection aspect of his game, slow kick slide indicating his feet aren’t as good as Hunts, and he can give them a good pop initially but loses them on their secondary efforts to go around him. These limitations are less apparent as an OG. Personally id really like to see him inside and be a mauler, his upper body strength and ability to seal out the run lanes would give us a great person to crack open the DL giving our RBs a chance to hit through the LOS and make their first cut.

    Again, i know the media is touting him the new RT, im just not seeing why when we already have a guy who has decently proven himself already there with a partial year under his belt.

    • stangerx says:

      Least from the camp reports, they do have Hunt playing at guard. And they have had a season plus to get to know his play. But heck they have had Eich playing guard a bunch too. They sure do love Jessie Davis.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The coaches are going to decide all of that based on performance. It will work itself out.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I also don’t think we should worry too much about what side guys play on. That will work itself out too.

  164. CavalierKong says:

    Stang, I tried to contact the NFL Game pass by phone. First, the number was even harder to find than the online help request, but I did finally find one that wasn’t out of service. Their customer service line directs you to submit a help request online, and says if you have already submitted a request, “there is no reason to do anything else”. There is literally no way to talk to someone by phone.

    It’s pretty unreal. I think it may actually be worse than dealing with insurance companies. So at this point, I have no option but to wait and see how long it will take then to respond to my help request through email.

    If any of you other guys have the game pass on auto-renew, I’d appreciate if you take a look and see if it is working for you. I still don’t know if it’s my account that has issues or if this is some system thing during their auto-renew period.

    • stangerx says:

      You gave it your shot. What else can you do?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Shoot my tv?

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Cancel it , then resubscribe

      • CavalierKong says:

        Toba, it won’t let me. I tried to do that. It doesn’t even acknowledge that I am signed up, so there is no cancel button on my profile. It is giving me the option to ‘start my free 7 day trial’ instead. So I tried to just sign up that way and it puts me through a loop where every time I try to sign up it sends me back to the home page. And my auto-renew has charged my card, so I don’t know wtf is going on, but I am legit pissed now.

        I’m hoping someone here has it and comes back to me that they have the same issue when they try to use it. That would mean it’s the system, and not my f^cking account.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Was worth a shot 🤷‍♂️ No experience with it , I have to resubscribe to Sunday ticket every year, no auto renew there

      • CavalierKong says:

        I appreciate ya trying. I’m just going to have to do what has always been very difficult for me to do- be patient, lol.

        As long as it is fixed before our first preseason game, I can live with it.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Well good luck to ya … Sunday ticket doesn’t kick in until game week, so I don’t get LIVE preseason unless on a network .. usually taping Fins game at 04:00 am 3 days later

  165. Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, they’ve been in camp for just over a week. We all know that coaches move players around with different groupings. There is no depth chart this early in TC. It’s about reps and getting ready to play games. We probably won’t know who the starters and significant role players will be for a couple of weeks. Obviously we know who some of them will be.

    • stangerx says:

      Jackson has played LT, then played LT and then played LT some more. Seems you can at least tell some things.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I consider him a lock at LT. I think he’s going to be really good. He’s just turning 22 this month, he’s got the size and athleticism, he’s smart and he’s got some nasty to him.

  166. manitobafinfan says:

    Well !!! Searched Dolphins on TV and it shows NFLN showing LIVE noon 08/14

  167. Tim Knight says:

    So as Tua Tagovailoa enters his second season, reporters who have watched practice have reported noticing the QB uncorking more shots than he did as a rookie. Head coach Brian Flores was asked about it in his Wednesday press conference.

    “I think it’s something he’s placed an emphasis on,” Flores said. “We’ve placed an emphasis on not pushing the ball downfield, but taking advantage of those opportunities if they’re there. But like always, we want to have good fundamentals, good techniques, good mechanics, go through his progression. And if it’s there and it’s open, or we can throw him open, then take a shot. We’re not going to make them if we don’t throw them. So I think he’s taking more shots downfield and hopefully, he’s gaining more confidence and can make some of those throws.

    “But at the same time, not every throw is going to be a 50 yarder, or 60 yarder. So we’ve got to make good decisions. Check it down when we need to check it down, throw the intermediate route when we need to throw the intermediate route, you’ve got to throw it away and take the incompletion when you need to do that. And you just need reps. So we’re just trying to give him as many reps as possible — that’s the same with all the quarterbacks, Jacoby [Brissett], Reid [Sinnett], really all players at all positions. But specific to Tua and the downfield throws, that’s my take on it.”

  168. twicethethe says:

    Kong – I just check out my GamePass subscription and I’m getting the same ridiculousness. I sign in and it acts like I don’t have a subscription, when I know they just billed my CC for it and I even got a confirmation email stating I was renewed. WTF…epic fail NFL, epic fail.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Maybe they’re not ready yet and there is nothing active to see at this time. Just guessing.

      • twicethethe says:

        I was thinking that as well – could be it. But I also thought you could replay and get other content at any time, so I don’t know. Guess we’ll find out tomorrow.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Same here.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I really appreciate you checking that for me, Twice. That means it’s something funky with their renewal system this year and they’ll get it worked out without me having to do anything. Cheers, bro

    • CavalierKong says:

      That says they’ve implemented a new user interface. That explains why it’s effed up this year. There are always bugs to be worked out with that kind of thing.

      I tried locating something on the issue earlier, but didn’t get any helpful articles. That one is only about the all-22, but it gives enough info that if I had found it, I probably would have assumed it’s the whole system. Out of curiosity, what did you search?

      • Tim Knight says:

        NFL Game Pass and there was this story and a Yahoo one.

      • CavalierKong says:

        All you typed was ‘nfl game pass’?

        LOL, you have to love google’s algorithm. I tried all sorts of different ways to search that multiple times today- even just now, and that article didn’t come up until I narrowed the parameters to only results in the last week.

        Of course, in retrospect, I should have thought of narrowing the results earlier.

    • twicethethe says:

      Thanks for finding that – sounds like it’s FUBAR for now.

  169. herdfan says:

    Regarding Cav’s earlier rant…I happen to be dickless and I may kiss a dog from time to time. Take that you big ape! 😂

  170. wyoming85 says:

    • Tim Knight says:

      The thing I really like about Tua is even though he’s not an elite runner, he does have the feet for waggles, bootlegs and some scrambles where he can quickly stop, setup and throw it anywhere. That’s the thing I see time and time again. He’s got that compact build and it looks like his legs are stronger. Much more torque so far on his throws.

  171. Tim Knight says:

    Every food establishment in America is selling the crispy chicken sandwich on a nice bun with pickles and mayo. It’s unbelievable!!! I wonder if it has anything to do with realizing people eat these things by the millions? LOL

    • D says:

      I don’t see why the protocol should be any different for vaxxed and unvaxxed. The whole point is you want to catch carriers so they cant introduce it to others, to me it doesnt matter if your cvaxxed, you could still be a carrier, and probably with less symptoms, you need testing too. This whole vaccine is the cure its the eradication of the virus had flaws in that argument since get go, i pointed that out, vaccination should be seen as protecting yourself from getting cornholed by the virus, not as being a cure to the spread because it has been seen to not stop the spread. I have a friend who has been vaccinated for months now, she works in healthcare and has contracted it. She also tested positive for the previous strain, i haven’t heard it called this but ill call it alpha variant to distinguish it from Delta, she caught alpha twice. She now has delta.

  172. Mike E. says:

    Tim – There was a time when I used to go to Wendy’s a lot, probably about 15 years ago. They had a chicken sandwich called the Monterey Ranch Chicken Sandwich. It was a crispy chicken cutlet topped with spicy ranch sauce and Monterey cheese. It was great, and then they took it off the menu. They’d bring it back for a limited time and just about everyone on line was ordering it. I never understood why they took it off the menu. Now they have a few sandwiches just like it so it doesn’t matter but it never made sense to me that so many people wanted that sandwich but they took it off the menu

    • sb7mvp says:

      Nothing beats the mushroom swiss burger for me

    • bailbondmike says:

      I do the asiago spicy chicken sandwich with bacon from time to time from Wendy’s.

      Usually, if I have a craving for fast food, I get the avocado bacon burger from Whataburger.

      • Mike E. says:

        The Asiago Ranch Chicken sandwich is basically the Monterey Ranch. Asiago cheese is subbed for Monterrey. Both very good

    • D says:

      Wendys is about burgers, their burgers are on a whole other level vs standard fast food burgers, thier chicken sammich is decent, better than like the one Piggy is talking about below at Burger King lol, but those dont really have a plac ein a chicken sandwich discussion, hell even McDonalds has upped the ante with a real chicken breast sandwich, catcht he fuck up Burger King. Those new ones, the Ch-King’s might be that, but i havent had one so im not sure.

      • D says:

        Their fries since they swapped over to natural style fries, are solid too. Damn good dipped in a frosty.

  173. The Flying Pig says:

    I’m a fan of the original Burger King chicken sandwich

    I am a simple pig with simple needs

    • steveccnv says:

      Not sure that chopped and formed thing has any chicken in it, its disgusting, but turn it into the Italian with tomato sauce and cheese and it’s edible 😳

    • D says:

      I like one every once and a while but Steve is right it shouldn’t be in the same category with others lol.I also like the fish sammich which probably could be equally categorized.

  174. Krishna says:

    Lol…a Buffalo, Ape, Bison burger.

    Herd and CK with the trash talk! LMAO!

  175. ocalarob says:

    the problem with eating fast food fried chicken sandwich’s is the grease they fry the chicken in,
    first its cheap oil such as corn or canola second they heat it and use it way too long, it becomes rancid. same with getting wings from a sports bar.

    • ocalarob says:

      that said chickfila rules the fried chicken sandwich

      • D says:

        They own a lot of things about fast food, they are pretty unequaled.

      • D says:

        I will say that i have had a lot of the rest, we dont have a KFC in my town but we have both Popeyes and Church’s chicken and Churches has a pretty damn good one. Surprisingly not over greasy as sometimes their chicken is. Popeye’s is pretty greasy. Hardee’s or for you lefties, Carl’s Junior, had a pretty solid one as well, their chicken tenders, if gotten fresh out of the fryer, are pretty damn good too.

  176. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 4, 2021 at 7:55 pm
    Stanger, they’ve been in camp for just over a week. We all know that coaches move players around with different groupings. There is no depth chart this early in TC. It’s about reps and getting ready to play games. We probably won’t know who the starters and significant role players will be for a couple of weeks. Obviously we know who some of them will be.
    —————————————————————————————
    Kinda whjat im saying, i dont think he will start at RT (Hunt) but i think he is ideally the guy, at least for now until someone shows up to support the narrative that it should be Eichenberg. Both have been at OG at practices, both have potential at either position. My thought is since \its established what he brings at RT they wish to see how he would do at OG and Eichenberg as well, they are not set anywhere but LT, and i think thats mostly due to being challenged, Jackson doesn’t really have many challengers, thats their lock position and it looks like that they are trying other players at other ones. The only posuition that seems to be clear cut is LT.

  177. steveccnv says:

    Chicken Fila is a big deal here, because its mostly new, within the last 5 years or so.

    They opened a new one about 4 years ago close to work and the drive thru lines were out of control, the only way to get quick service was with the app

    • D says:

      Their company setup is amazing, they staff to keep things very quick for the customer, their product is elite, their preparation and customer service is elite. Its just a very well run business. One of the few places that if i get drive through and the “screwed me at the drive through” ill blame myself for doing something to get the order wrong, which incidentally has always been the case lol. They do not screw up orders.

      • ocalarob says:

        Welcome to the rightwing fast food restaurant, they make no excuses, hard right.

      • D says:

        Well the owner has personal beliefs that are religious in nature making him and his family hard right i guess. He doesn’t discriminate in his business practices, but he doesn’t yield to popular culture telling him how to be either. My feeling is he wouldnt even be considered hard right if he wasn’t a Christian and the left side wasnt so far from him. He has never shown anything but tolerance for people of different beliefs, he just stands firm on his own and i really respect that.

  178. Rockphin says:

    LOL, I looked up at the Recent posts section and every post on the list was from D. My initial thought was damn, 8 episodes of ware and peace or what? This will keep me busy all morning. Then they were all normal sized replies.

    I’m kinda disappointed now. LOL

    JBB D

  179. D says:

    CavalierKong says:
    August 5, 2021 at 12:11 am
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-players-association-to-ask-nfl-for-increased-covid-19-testing-of-vaccinated-players-staffers/ar-AAMWxRb

    Reply
    D says:
    August 5, 2021 at 10:34 am
    I don’t see why the protocol should be any different for vaxxed and unvaxxed. The whole point is you want to catch carriers so they cant introduce it to others, to me it doesnt matter if your cvaxxed, you could still be a carrier, and probably with less symptoms, you need testing too. This whole vaccine is the cure its the eradication of the virus had flaws in that argument since get go, i pointed that out, vaccination should be seen as protecting yourself from getting cornholed by the virus, not as being a cure to the spread because it has been seen to not stop the spread. I have a friend who has been vaccinated for months now, she works in healthcare and has contracted it. She also tested positive for the previous strain, i haven’t heard it called this but ill call it alpha variant to distinguish it from Delta, she caught alpha twice. She now has delta.

    • stangerx says:

      If one person is far more likely to have Covid than another why don’t different protocols make sense? Surely you aren’t claiming that vaccinated people are just as likely to get Covid. But yes vaccinated people can get it…. been known since they dig the trials.

  180. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    August 4, 2021 at 8:54 pm
    So as Tua Tagovailoa enters his second season, reporters who have watched practice have reported noticing the QB uncorking more shots than he did as a rookie. Head coach Brian Flores was asked about it in his Wednesday press conference.

    “I think it’s something he’s placed an emphasis on,” Flores said. “We’ve placed an emphasis on not pushing the ball downfield, but taking advantage of those opportunities if they’re there. But like always, we want to have good fundamentals, good techniques, good mechanics, go through his progression. And if it’s there and it’s open, or we can throw him open, then take a shot. We’re not going to make them if we don’t throw them. So I think he’s taking more shots downfield and hopefully, he’s gaining more confidence and can make some of those throws.

    “But at the same time, not every throw is going to be a 50 yarder, or 60 yarder. So we’ve got to make good decisions. Check it down when we need to check it down, throw the intermediate route when we need to throw the intermediate route, you’ve got to throw it away and take the incompletion when you need to do that. And you just need reps. So we’re just trying to give him as many reps as possible — that’s the same with all the quarterbacks, Jacoby [Brissett], Reid [Sinnett], really all players at all positions. But specific to Tua and the downfield throws, that’s my take on it.”
    —————————————————————
    I think also he is getting open receivers. Its hard to cover when ya have a Wilson, and Waddle, sprinkle in Grant who occasionally gets loose, and Fuller when he is back, its going to be more deep throws because will be more opportunities to be. I don’t think this is a different Tua, i do think he has put in work to improve on it, but i think the big change is we went from a group of receivers that has trouble getting open deep to a handful of them on our team now. Flo stuck to the topic of Tua but to me the more likely changes was how many burners who also run good routes we have.

  181. sb7mvp says:

    Some dude hit my parked vehicle as he was rushing in to get the popeye’s chicken sandwich 2 years ago.
    I kind of miss going to Church’s chicken, but I don’t miss the fear of being stabbed in the parking lot.

    • D says:

      Lol the ones in Hattiesburg and Laurel are really thuggy and in bad areas or at least on the edge of bad areas. Not the same everywhere. When i was younger, before Popeyes had become a widespread chain, Churches was the place in the Panama City Florida area and it was amazingly run and clean and great employees, so i think its probably the management in the other places. We have one in Lucedale, and its not thuggy, but its not as well run as the Popeyes. slower service, quality just not quite top notch either. Their biscuits though are amazing.I know the owner of the Laurel location and i think he might own some of them in Hattiesburg area, but he is pretty hands off on the running of the stores though he will make an appearance occasionally, they seem to be at peak performance on those days but it slips right back down when he isn’t. He doesn’t have to put much effort to rake in the money from those places. Their locations for getting people to frequent it isn’t hindered at all.

      • D says:

        Block format just for you Piggy, forgot to go back and add in the paragraph breaks lol. I never type it with the breaks i go back and add them after.

      • sb7mvp says:

        The Hburg location is definitely sketchy. Used to play basketball on one of the courts over near there and couldn’t be there after dark or without a “guide”.

  182. ocalarob says:

    Lee’s chicken beats all here in Ocala

    • D says:

      There is another chain from over your ways that varies pretty significantly in quality across the US, and thats Sonny BBQ. I think the ones around yall are pretty well run, or were when i was last over that way, the one in P’Cola on 9th avenue i probably put that owners kid through college i ate there so much and it was run very very well. The one inn Mobile is not great, ok but not like the others i have been to, and one i went to in Jackson MS sucked ass, but most things in Jackson do.

  183. pheloniusphish says:

    Picking which WR will make the final roster is tough. I think they keep 7 WR, 3 TE, 3 RB, 2 QB. I think Williams goes on PUP for 6-weeks or IR-designated to return. My WR picks (today, based on 1 week of camp) are:
    Locks
    Parker
    Waddle
    Fuller
    Wilson
    Likely
    Hollins (ST gunner)
    Foster (ST gunner)
    Bubble for the 7th
    Grant
    Bowden

    TE are:
    Gesicki
    Smythe
    Long

    • D says:

      You have Williams gone, which i don’t disagree with. He is a good receiver but we have about the same guy in Parker. I also lean toward no Hollins keeping Foster and Bowden. I think we keep 4 TE’s, maybe Hollins could fill that role, he move more like a receiving TE than a true receiver anyways.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I think Hollins or Foster can step in when Parker gets hurt. Don’t think Hollins is big enough to play TE – 6″4′ / 221 / 4.58 40. Bowden might get the nod over any of the three non-locks because he can be a true passing threat in the wildcat. Grant has speed but questionable hands. Like I said tough decisions. Rest of camp will be interesting – see if any of them separate.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I tend to think Williams is going to make the cut too

      I’m not sure how I feel about keeping foster and Hollis just for their special teams skill set

      Do we need 2 wrs to be special teams aces – for special teams we can pull from our DBs as well, among other positions

      I’m also curious to see what happens with Bowden, Perry or Grant

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Hollies played pretty well when he was in last year (Fitz face mask catch) and Foster has been mentioned a lot the first week.

      • steveccnv says:

        Foster had very good numbers as a deep threat receiver in Buffalo, so he’s not consider an STer

  184. D says:

    bailbondmike says:
    August 5, 2021 at 8:21 am
    I do the asiago spicy chicken sandwich with bacon from time to time from Wendy’s.

    Usually, if I have a craving for fast food, I get the avocado bacon burger from Whataburger.
    —————————————————————–
    Whataburger is an amazing chain as well i love their food. P’cola had tons of them, Mobile when i first moved there had 1 and it wasn’t coinvent for me to go to. They have since opened more making it a lot easier to get to for me, but that progress was slow lol. BBM do you remember the shootout that happened down Burgess road and ended up in the parking lot of the Whataburger on Davis and Burgess?

  185. Rockphin says:

    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offense-rankings-tiers-2021

    DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET PISSED OFF

    • D says:

      LOL, when is the last time we were anywhere near a good ranking. This is just par for the course. Let people keep underestimating, that’s a tactical advantage.

    • sb7mvp says:

      What functioning adult would get pissed off at an opinion list geared towards fantasy football? Especially when they are right. Our offense is full of question marks that haven’t proven anything on the field yet. Respect is earned.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      We really don’t deserve to be ranked nigher until our offense produces in the regular season

      Interesting to see 3 teams in the afc east on the bottom and 1 team at the top

    • steveccnv says:

      They can say all the well the OL, Tua…they want, but the article was about the entire offense and we did score a good amount of pts per game, 24 I believe, so with a healthy Tua and big additions at WR can’t see anything wors than group 3

  186. sb7mvp says:

    Hey D,
    You ever see that Alabama leprechaun?

  187. bailbondmike says:

    Today is an off day for practice and not trying to bring up politics but maybe looking for some clarification as I might not be getting the whole story.

    How much do you know or have heard about the democrats asking for a “National Mileage Tax” on everyone based on how many miles you drive to pay for the massive infrastructure spending bill?

    Isn’t this taxing the people who make under 400k that they said they wouldn’t do, either directly or indirectly?

    Won’t this affect tourism in country? I mean I drive anywhere I go within a 12 hour drive.

    Won’t this drive up costs of Uber, takeout delivery and basically everything you buy at a store that gets delivered by truckdrivers?

    They say they are going to track this by:
    – car internet collected by automakers
    – Motor vehicle data collected by insurers
    – Third party diagnostic services
    – Smartphone Apps
    – Motor vehicle data from gas stations
    or “Any other method the Secretary deems necessary

    Isn’t this more monitoring/tracking of where we go and what we do?

    Pete Buttigieg said they weren’t going to do this but now it is in the bill.

    Am I jumping the gun and shouldn’t worry about it?

    • stangerx says:

      Reason for the Mileage Tax is more and more people are going electric. Standard way to tax people for their road use was the gas tax, but now some people don’t use gas. Whether the time is right, seems unfair to me to let gas car drivers contribute to the roads and bridges while those dudes in their Prius do not. And only going more electric going forward.

    • bailbondmike says:

      Ah, there is always more to something when you first hear about it.

  188. stangerx says:

    Food math can be fuzzy.

    Anyone else ever notice that at a good place the 8 ounce burger (one-half pound) has twice as much meat as a double-quarter pounder at McDonalds?

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