Camp Battles – Safeties

Oh here in Miami, fans should definitely be doing the safety dance.  This is easily the best collection of safety talent in quite some time.  In 2011, we had Yeremiah Bell and Reshad Jones, but Reshad was just getting his career started at that point.  This is now the best unit on this team.  I know Minkah Fitzpatrick is just a rookie, but I think you can throw out the typical rookie plan, this kid is special, and and he’s not going to be overwhelmed by anything he sees in the NFL.  He was used like a pro at Alabama, exposed to just about everything playing multiple positions and assignments at Alabama.  Nick Saban said he was his best player, and he could handle anything, and that’s high praise indeed.  We know what Reshad is, he’s a playmaker who can make things happen against the run or pass.  T.J. McDonald didn’t get a full shot here because he was suspended for 8 games, but this former Rams strong safety can lay the wood, and has had over 100 tackles in a season.  The talent drops off after the super trio, but maybe this is the year that either Walt Aikens or Jordan Lucas take a step forward, learning from Jones, McDonald and Minkah.  Or, maybe Maurice Smith steals the last spot.

Reshad Jones  S – 6’1 215  – 30YO

Reshad has done it all as a Miami Dolphins safety.  Drafted in the 5th RD (#163) in the 2010 NFL draft, he’s been one of our best draft picks in that time period, if not the best.  Annually racks up 100 or more tackles, and has 18 INT’s and 10.5 sacks so far in his career, along with 5 TD’s, 3 on INT returns and 2 on fumble returns.  Playmaker!  He can play near the LOS, and also has the speed to make plays on the back end.  A leader on this team, and one that should hopefully be a career Dolphin.

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T.J. McDonald  S  – 6’2 225  – 27YO

The former Rams Strong safety is a lot like Reshad in that he can play close to the LOS or make plays deep as well.  He’s a very good athlete, but hasn’t been anything like the playmaker Reshad has been.  Still, he tackles well, and can cover, and can be used like a safety or a linebacker, so he brings versatility.  Both he and Reshad can be part of the new formation that’s sweeping the NFL for the last few years, the Big Nickel.  That means sometimes deploying a combination of big defensive backs, usually safeties replacing the smaller nickel corner.  I look forward to seeing a lot of T.J., Reshad and Minkah on the field together this season.

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Minkah Fitzpatrick  S  – 6’1 202  – 21YO

The great thing about Minkah Fitzpatrick to me is the fact that while playing for Nick Saban, Saban used him in so many different situations, and Minkah succeeded in all of them.  He wasn’t just a guy who was versatile enough to play multiple positions, he was excellent enough to do it better than anyone else.  That’s the key right there, some guys are versatile, and can do things adequately at a few different things.  Not Minkah, he kills it everywhere.  We got a taste of what he’s capable of in the very first preseason game.  That play where a completion was certain, but Minkah closed with a quick burst and was able to get to the receiver and cause him to drop the football.  I saw him making tackles and defending the pass all over the field.  good things are coming, no GREAT things are coming for this player.

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Maurice Smith  S   –  6’0 194  – 23YO

Right now, Maurice Smith is 4th on the depth chart, ahead of Walt Aikens and Jordan Lucas.  The former Alabama, then Georgia safety was picked up by the Dolphins last season as an UDFA.  So far in training camp, according to HC Adam Gase said this of Smith . . .“I think his confidence level is extremely high right now,” Gase said. “He understands the defense. It’s allowing him to play faster.”  Whether he can continue to impress remains to be seen.  Smith played in 6 games last season for the Dolphins.

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Jordan Lucas  S  –  6’0 190  – 25YO

Lucas was a 2016 6th RD pick (204th).  He appeared in 8 games in ’16, and 11 games in ’17 playing mostly special teams.  The former Nittany Lion safety is now 5th on the depth chart, and that’s not a great place to be, especially if we only carry 4 safeties.  Last year for the most season we carried 4 safeties, but in December we carried 5.  If Smith stays ahead of Lucas, Lucas could definitely be on the roster bubble.

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Walt Aikens  S  – 6’1 208  – 27YO

Aikens is really a player w/o a true position.  The Dolphins have been shuffling him around from S to CB since they drafted him back in the 4th RD (#125) in the 2014 NFL Draft.  in 2015, Aikens started 5 games, but otherwise has mostly been a ST’s player, but has played in almost every game since ’14.  He’s show he’s durable, and is a good special teams player, but it seems like at this juncture, he’s no more than that.

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So that’s our safety situation.  Depending upon how many CB’s and how many WR’s we keep will probably impact how many safeties we choose to keep, and keep in mind that if Aikens is stowed on the CB depth chart, he’s a guy who can also play safety.   It’s the top 3 though, that should give Miami Dolphins fans something to really look forward to.  Reshad and T.J. are a great tandem as is, so just think how much Minkah elevates the defense?  I know I do all the time!

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712 Responses to Camp Battles – Safeties

  1. bookman11 says:

    I must be stupid, but I do t get the no name pos comment?

  2. bookman11 says:

    OD,
    It is only the PS, they are not even game planning for teams yet. I don’t care how many short passes we throw this year, I still can’t stand Landry because of who he has turned out to be as a person.

    Blame Ross all you want, but Gase was a hot commodity when he hired him, and to me it is way to early to judge the hiring. I for one like him, and believe he was the right choice. JMHO

  3. stangerx says:

    We have a back-up QB battle again. Not saying Osweiler lit up the world, but he looked decent. Fales had a real bad night. And Brock was second one in with no switching series like in the first game.

  4. Ken says:

    I know it is only pre season but we look much the same as last year. We can’t convert 3rd downs and we cannot get off the field on 3rd downs

  5. wyoming85 says:

    Tanny was taking what the D was giving him!
    big cushions on the outside and BOOM 6 yard pass! Miss a tackle BOOM 12 yards
    It as easy as hell until we tried running the ball! Or got a holding call!!!!!!

    JMHO of course

    • stangerx says:

      They sure were giving our speedster WRs a bunch of cushion. Offense was actually moving right well. Problem like Ken pointed out was 3rd down and as you did those penalties. Saw something to work with though.

  6. wyoming85 says:

    That draw play on 2nd and 18 pissed me the f*%k off!

  7. Randy says:

    What? A bunch of short, first read passes? I’m shocked.

  8. wyoming85 says:

    I see Mondo is on par!

  9. wyoming85 says:

  10. wyoming85 says:

    Whens the last time we say this?

    • stangerx says:

      And no sacks on Tanny, not even much pressure actually. Could have asked for more as far as the run game, but sure does seem the OL is set.

  11. Some observations, I know it’s ps 2 , but, can we please begin to show we can play some run defense? And Clean up some brain dead penalties , and show some of that Dolphin famous discipline we have been known for?
    For the First 2 ps games Miami is dead last on run defense. There is a huge hole in the middle that Suh used to fill, We better get a much cheaper guy to fill that IMO or teams will ball control our asses.
    But not just the middle, we also got gashed on off left tackle rushes. That was never filed by Suh before and I know it’s scrubs, ps, etc, however We can’t be dead last in run defense during the season, I’m hoping the team addresses these and other issues.
    On the plus side, sure is nice seeing RT, and Some quality backup Qb play, and our offensive skill players are talented and deep.
    This extremely talented bunch of players need to come together as ONE

  12. 13kvFINS says:

    FIRST HALF D played great other than on TWO PLAYS,

    OFFENSE (minus half the penalties) would have had 21 points easily,
    rather than just 9 by halftime!!!

    THREE STARTING O SKILL PLAYERS DIDNT DRESS,
    and two of our top 3 RB’S didn’t dress!!!!

    NOT DISCOURAGED ONE BIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GOFINS!!!

    X broke the ankles of ankle breaker McCaffrey on X interception return,
    literally collapsed him on the spot with moves!!!

    Sacked Newton THREE TIMES, and intercepted him all within first 17 minutes of PRE-SEASON game!!!

  13. I’m Loving our pass defense though so far , still room to improve, but I will believe teams will struggle keeping their QB,s upright, and Yes, we will get some picks and turnovers for sure. We can’t be like the killer bees though, awesome pass defense, and powder puff soft run D. Rigging showed Us why this doesn’t work

  14. 13kvFINS says:

    Coulda attempted onsides kick with under a minute remains after pulling within 7,
    but Gase said F-THAT, let’s get outta here healthy, no reason to risk injury to tie a PS game!!!

    GOFINS!!!

  15. Gase and Shula were strikingly different in their discipline. I know that was 40 years ago, but someway somehow We have struggled with penalties, some of them because of undisciplined execution, and some just by mental lapse.
    However it needs to be done, We simply can’t keep beating ourselves with penalties IMO

    • wyoming85 says:

      He’s got them running laps like HS kids!

      Maybe the Captains need to levy fines? They should all understand money??????

  16. CavalierKong says:

    I stayed off the board until I could catch the game on replay.
    My initial thoughts:

    -No injuries, woohoo.
    -Offensive line looked pretty good. Pass blocking was good, run blocking was up and down.
    -Tanny kept everything underneath. I think his longest pass was a sideline comeback about 14 yds.
    -Drake had a couple of good runs, but danced a couple of times in bad spots instead of picking up what was there (RZ after INT comes to mind). Frankly, I think Gore would have been more effective in this game.
    -Our first RZ trip was a disaster and we didn’t throw it once into the endzone.
    -RZ offense is a concern.
    -First string offense had way too many penalties.
    -I was pissed about the delay of game Tanny got (then should have had a 2nd the very next play but it wasn’t called). But upon review, I couldn’t see a playclock behind the endzone anywhere, not sure, but maybe they had technical issues and were removed or something.
    -Wilson gets open.
    -The offense we run requires consistent precision. We have to clean up the small stuff.
    -Defense played pretty good, 2 or 3 plays cost us 13 points. We should be able to clean that up.
    -Our LBs are still the weakest unit on D. Alonzo still can’t cover. McMillan was good on some plays horrible on others, Baker got washed out on the big run for TD.
    -Quinn was amazing. 3 or 4 pressures and a sack in the 1st couple of drives. ended with I think two sacks and had multiple pressures. It’s early, but he may end up the best move of the offseason for us.
    -Not sure which kicker it was, but he drilled a 54 yder with plenty to spare.

    • stangerx says:

      Cav — can’t disagree with one of those and most of them match up with my own thoughts. The “offense we run requires consistent precision” was real spot on. Went just fine, but couldn’t come back from the penalties. And yeah key take away from the game was that Quinn is gonna be a keeper. And we have two real good kickers. Not even worried about which one we line up,.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I just read something that said Quinn only played 13 snaps. That doesn’t seem right, I feel like I saw him in there the 2nd quarter. But if it is right, that makes what he did even more impressive!

    • 13kvFINS says:

      GOODSTUFF Kong !!!

      Yea, first RZ, had a 2ND/goal from the two,
      Two plays/penalties later it was 1st/goal from putter RZ

      Gase got pissed at penalties, ran the ball for 3/out FG

      At halftime Gase angrily said,
      “””If we can’t execute/stop the pass play penalties,
      then we’ll just run the damn ball everytime”””

      He’s extremely annoyed with the TD deterrents!!!!

      GOFINS!!!

  17. CavalierKong says:

    Lol, just went back and saw the responses on the no name POS comment. Cheers guys. 🙂

  18. wyoming85 says:

  19. steveccnv says:

    Seems like Gase has gone vanilla, doesn’t want to show anything. No inside kick, no RZ Gesicki, running on 3rd down…some of that has to do with the poor execution/penalties.

    • CavalierKong says:

      The expectation of vanilla game planning and play calling is a big part of why I don’t get too high or low after these games. We have no idea what the coaches are really looking at play to play. In PS things often don’t go down the way they would in a regular season game. We know they want execution and no penalties, but after that it’s all speculation.

      Mando reports Gase seems happy (in typical Mando style he says ‘for no apparent reason’, smh). If Gase is happy with where the team is at right now, then I can roll with that. He’s the HC, and should have the true pulse of the team.

  20. steveccnv says:

    Trying to watch Rams vs Raiders, but it’s difficult. They meet week 1, so very few starters playing.

    • steveccnv says:

      Raiders still playing thug ball.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Lol i thought the same thing , so i went on computer and did all the weeks banking.. just could nit get into watching it.. was kinda like trying to be interested in Browns Bills last night

  21. manitobafinfan says:

    My few observations:
    Sinorice Perry can ball I’d like to keep him
    Tank was getting smoked consistently, needs to buck up
    Tunsil letting too many guys around/ through him …again Buck Up
    McTyer is a really good tackler
    Morgan as KR is horrid.. lucky to land on PS
    Caroo had a really good grab at back of ez that didnt count as he was pushed iut, but he battled and contorted to make the catch ..easily could have been PI

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      saw those too and agree
      was impressed with Jeremy Langford … brings a load a la LeGarrett Blount.

      Tankersley got beat long on a perfect back-shoulder throw and all-pro catch. Who was it who said once, “There is no defense for a perfectly thrown pass.”? Tank was right there even touching the guy the whole play. No separation, but still a 20 yd completion.

      Still, Tank needs maybe more anticipation or something …jump the route or pull a Grimes and play the ball better than the receiver does … the only way to stop the perfectly thrown pass is to make the QB think the WR is hopelessly blanketed and fear the INT…or make the INT.

      It’s only his second year. I hope he learns faster.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        I believe the play before that was identical and wr was wide open but either dropped it or was outta bounds.. yea he’s young and will improve .. not worried yet jusy observations 😎

  22. mf13ss says:

  23. naplesfan2010 says:

    Today we started 3 slot guys … 5’7, 5’9, & 5’10 … without Parker or Stills to go deep … also hard to dominate the RZ like that, especially while keeping Gesicki a secret.

    Also without our #2 and #3 backs … both our powerbacks … which were also needed in the RZ.

    (I think it was Asiata who threw a great block on the 2pt conversion.) The kid Buddy Howell continues to impress me as well.

    • mf13ss says:

      I do believe you’re correct on it being Asiata with the great block on the 2-point conversion. That was really good to see!

  24. naplesfan2010 says:

    especially this from MF’s post above:
    Safety Maurice Smith showed why the Dolphins put him on the field against Oakland last November before his season was short-circuited because of an appendectomy.

    He had a team-high eight tackles on Friday, made a great play on a two-yard loss by C.J. Anderson and intercepted a deflected ball caused by a jarring hit by Trae Elston.

    ▪ Laremy Tunsil’s 12 penalties last year were third-most among all NFL offensive linemen and he had another one (holding) on Friday…Kendall Langford went from unemployed Monday to making two tackles in an NFL game on Friday…

    Counting the end of last season, Xavien Howard now has five interceptions in his past seven games… Robert Quinn was the first Dolphin with two sacks in a preseason game since Julius Warmsley in 2016… Vincent Taylor had a tackle for loss and continues to do something impactful every game or practice… Charles Harris had a sack and quarterback hit and continues to show signs of growth.

  25. naplesfan2010 says:

    Going out on a limb here to say that I think Bryce Petty has earned a legit shot at being our backup QB for the regular season.

    Fales looked lost against Carolina, and Osweiler still looks like a rookie QB out there himself.
    To me they are both good third tier college QBs. Neither one is a legit NFL player. Both are inaccurate and Fales has a noodle and Oz has a fawnky delivery. OZ still steps right into sacks and Fales panic-throws too much.

    Petty produces TDs. And he throws line drives.
    Let’s see if he can do it against better players than the 5th stringers.

  26. mf13ss says:

    ICYMI… here’s Robert Quinn’s 1st sack yesterday. Outstanding recovery after Matt Kalil went low on him. Excellent pursuit and he wasn’t fooled when Cam tried to juke him at the end of the play.

  27. naplesfan2010 says:

    Kendall Langford looked damn good for a guy off the sofa.
    He might be the run stuffer we need. He’s done that well his whole career.
    Plus @ 6’6 he’s hard to throw over right down the middle where we give up so much to the TEs.

  28. manitobafinfan says:

    Something weird about Osweiller’s release… cant put my finger on it , just looks odd… he was firing bullets last night though.. some were harder than needed thus no catch

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      He comes over the top like a MLB flamethrower trajectory. Those guys are often really tall too, so maybe that’s it, but the hell of it is, he gets a lot knocked down at the LoS.

      It’s like he has too much of the ball in his hand.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        So better suited to Longball than our Short passing game .. be an interesting decision at Qb2

  29. naplesfan2010 says:

    I believe if Quinn had not got Cam on that first one then Wake would’ve. Sandwich 2.0.

  30. mf13ss says:

    And here is Robert Quinn’s 2nd sack yesterday. Follow the arc of his turn… that’s pretty darn good! He may not have the burst of Charles Harris, but he’s deceptively fast and dangerously efficient.

  31. mf13ss says:

  32. naplesfan2010 says:

    It’s so sad that all my Clemson guys are disappointing us this year. Anthony looks like he just discovered football last summer, Tankersley looks shocked that the QB threw to his guy, and Branch has gone missing.

  33. naplesfan2010 says:

    Quinn ran a 4.6 40 at his combine. @ 6’4 250. That’s TE speed right?

  34. mf13ss says:

    Naples,

    I don’t understand what’s up with Stephone Anthony. I think a lot of us had some level of hope for him after trading a 5th rounder for his services. He seems like a far cry of what he once was at Clemson… and after being drafted in the 1st round.

    I need to find a better resource to track injuries, but I’d swear something must have happened to him in terms of injury. Either that, or he just doesn’t take his craft seriously.

    • mf13ss says:

      I’m not nearly as concerned about Tankersley as others. IF… i say IF we’re trying to turn him into a classic boundary CB (he was drafted for his size, for one), it’s going to take him some time to get acclimated to the pro game. The general rule of thumb is 3 to 4 years for a CB to get where he needs to be.

      So if that’s the plan, Tankersley is going to be alright, being he’s shown glimpses of what he’s capable of doing.

      • mf13ss says:

        As for Andre Branch, he is who he is… and that is a very decent player. Personally, I think he’s making WAY too much $crilla for what he does (2nd highest paid player on our team this year), but it is what it is. He did have a sack yesterday, but it was negated by penalty.

        Know that as he’s rotated on our new-look D-Line, he’s going to freshly beat the crap out of his worn-down assignment. I’m none too concerned about him… he’s going to be alright.

  35. mf13ss says:

    I’d like to talk about the ‘vanilla play-calling’ in preseason games, BOTH sides of the ball. Y’all know what that is, right? Of COURSE you do! And it’s for the same reason we retreat to the ‘Saban Bubble Thingy’ and don’t allow reporters or fans inside at times.

    NOBODY (no team) in the league wants to advertise the potential aces they have up their sleeves… whether it be play-calling, formations, featured STUDS on a given play, etc, etc.

    It was rather CLEAR that we’d rehearsed the ‘Wildcat’ back in ’08 before unleashing it on the league. And why did it take the league by storm? Because we weren’t ADVERTISING what was up our sleeves in front of fans, the media, in-game during the preseason, potential spies, etc, etc.

    We can go 0-4 in the preseason for all I care. Just DON’T sustain any significant injuries, tip our hand of what’s in store for the regular season, or advertise a clear and blatant weakness of ours.

    GO PHINS!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Tannehill threw 4 TDs to Gesicki in camp all in one day, right?
      No use getting that on tape for bellicheat et al to game plan for.
      No use showing how we’ll employ Gore in short yardage or goal line plays.
      Not like he needs practice or needs to get in shape. Guy’s like a short superman.

  36. naplesfan2010 says:

    MF13 I hope I don’t sound too much like a Clemson homer above. I didn’t mean it that way.
    It’s like how you say you don’t trust Alabama DBs, which is a valid judgment on your part.
    Well let’s hope Minkah improves the track record on that one.

    But I’m just saying when guys come out of a national championship level program like Alabama or Ohio State let’s say, then ppl are right to expect them to perform well in the league, even if they aren’t all HoFers. That’s what makes these three Tiger players a disappointment.

    But you make very valid points above that help assuage the pain a bit.

    As far as Stephone, I don’t think it’s commitment, i think it’s IQ. Let’s say football IQ. He seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time 90% of the time. In college he was so superior athletically that he was able to recover from bad angles with his speed and with his strength he could arm tackle guys or ragdoll blockers without having a clue what the reads were. Not possible in the NFL.

    I think what you say about Tank and Branch is a perfect analysis. I just hope we don’t give up on Cordrea too soon, and then he becomes a star for someone else.

    A fresh Branch vs a tired OL just might win us a game, either in the 4th qtr or late in the year when they’re banged up and he’s not.

    • mf13ss says:

      No, Bro… you don’t really sound the part of a Clemson HOMER, if you will. All 3 of the players you mentioned were drafted (and for GOOD reason) within the first 3 rounds (Stephone in the 1st, Branch in the 2nd, and Cordrea in the 3rd).

      AGREED with you on Stephone’s possible lack of football IQ: that’s something that scouts/GMs need to ESPECIALLY be aware.

      Happy to have quelled your anguish over Branch and Cordrea, though. 🙂

  37. naplesfan2010 says:

    Oh and Quinn’s a DE fast as a TE, which is really impressive.
    Not a freak like Vernon, but he was a WR in a TE’s body..

  38. mf13ss says:

    I’ve gotta say… I’m EXTREMELY disappointed in our LB play thus far this year. IMO, LB is more or less a ‘plug and play’ position that doesn’t take YEARS of development like SKILL positions (QB, WR, DB) do. How did Lawrence Timmons say it? “Find ball, tackle”, or something of the sort?

    Thus, it’s not like we’re tying to HIDE or HOLD BACK (vanilla) our LBs from doing their basic jobs. That Christian McCaffery run yesterday (for example) made me wanna PUKE… WTF was that?!!

    We’ve all got VERY high hopes for Raekwon, but he looked HORRIBLE again, yesterday. And most of y’all have already seen me post his CFF stats… he really wasn’t that good in college to begin with. He was a liability against the pass, very reactionary in coverage, played nicely vs the run… but he played behind a very good D-Line @ Ohio State.

    Look, I’m NOT trying to trash Raekwon… but I think ALL too many were thinking he was going to be the next best thing since Urlacher, Willis, or Zach. Time shall reveal, and we must be patient…

    It’s actually PAINFUL watching Raekwon trying to keep up with TE Ian Thomas on that 27-yard TD reception yesterday.

  39. 13kvFINS says:

    Naples, I suggested last night that I thought that Maurice Smith made the team with last week & last nights efforts, dudes balling

    Same with RB Perry, badd-ass #4 RB!!!

    Also suggested that Petty should get a shot at goin second,
    Though next week goin second is the 4th quarter anyways…

    Maybe he gets a start in finale (if not THill for a series or so),
    or at least second,
    but that not likely vs 1’s or 2’s either…

    Gase suggested at the start that at all positions,
    he wants to keep the bubble guys that produce TD’s!!!

    Mighta waited too long to see what Petty can actually do vs higher rated players??

    FALES first series began with a first/goal, and we kicked a FG!!!
    Fales won last week, Oz won this week, but
    Petty drove the team long distance for TOUCHDOWNS on each the Fins 2 game final drives, both on his only series of each game…

    Yea against those about to be cut, but he definitely deserves a better opportunity in the last two PS games!!!

    GOFINS!!!

  40. Rockphin says:

    also hard to dominate the RZ like that, especially while keeping Gesicki a secret.

    Yeah, I don’t think that was the case. I saw some real embarrassing bone head plays by Gheysucki on the replay.

  41. mf13ss says:

  42. bookman11 says:

    I will say this, I do not spend a lot of time analyzing the games in Pre season. I really think that making any conclusions is premature. In a few weeks we will not care at all. Do not over analyze

  43. ocalarob says:

    i think Gore will be the feature rb on this team, he may not see any pre season carries. no way drake can handle that load, buddy howell seems to be productive.

    • steveccnv says:

      You’re on your own, everyone else thinks Drake has the best chance on our team to be the next superstar. I love Gore, always have, saw him play a lot in SF, but he wasn’t brought in to be a feature back.

  44. ocalarob says:

    a power running game on the inside and speed on the outside will spread the defense and open up the field.

  45. naplesfan2010 says:

    sorry
    not panicking, just observing both the bad and good.
    I’m sure Gase and staff are seeing both as well.
    They know what they are holding back, as far as the playbook is concerned.
    Yet this is why they have preseason games, for evaluation of personnel and knocking the rust off.

    Many ppl say the coaches don’t actually game plan per se in the preseason, because they want to expose their players to one on one matchups to see what is what in the case that their guy is forced into that on any given play in the Regular Season. That results in some guys not getting any help or the “vanilla D” that gets beat so bad.

    But I think all coaches and some more than others slip in a little bit of the more sophisticated stuff.
    Some of it is ego, because they all hate to lose.
    Sometimes it’s complicated and the team or certain players really do need the practice.
    O it’s stuff new to the playbook, and they truly want to see how it looks in live action to get a baseline on tape to tweak before things count.

    • steveccnv says:

      I saw several plays this weekend, that made me think, why the hell is that team showing that play in preseason.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        same here … plus it’s almost like the other coach be like “heyyyy, c’mon man, you breakin’ the gentleman’s agreement.”

        But QBs get hit hard now, so this isn’t red jersey stuff.

  46. naplesfan2010 says:

    Sorry but what I’m saying is that play on which Raekwon looks so slow and Thomas so fast was one of those where we were playing vanilla D, and they pulled out an intricate, highly designed play they wanted to look at.

    Notice how the two receivers cross right in front of Raekwon. Whether they knew or cared that he is a rookie or not, they knew that this would cause him to take a false step to follow the first guy.

    By the time Raekwon stopped his full speed to his right, shifted his weight and turned 180 degrees, then started running to his left, it was all over.

    Raekwon ran a 4.61 40 and Thomas a 4.65, both at the combine.

    That play was designed to do exactly what it did. Strip the DBs off the top to go with the deeper crossing WR and leave a MLB forced to reverse direction and chase a TE who is already running full speed the other way. The TE did not even need to make a sharp cut either into or out of his pattern. Just run as fast as possible in that S shape. A perfectly designed play.

    Now it’s on tape.
    Now we can show that to Raekwon and say “look, if you see that coming, don’t even think about the WR. The DBs will pick him up, you crash the TE route, so it’s not even an open throw.” Thomas does not have the twitch to shake Raekwon without help from a pick play like that.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s what I thought when I saw the replay, he didn’t recognize the play and was hung out to dry. Thanks for the learning material Carolina.

      This was one of the plays I was thinking about in my response at 9:34 above.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        yeah not only did we see a play to teach Raekwon with, but we also saw a nifty design to use with our own shiny new rookie FAST TE.

        Find the MLB dropped in coverage and cross the TE under a deep threat WR and bingo, 25 yd TD.

        I just hope both DC and OC were taking notes.

  47. naplesfan2010 says:

    Malveaux looked great.
    If Hayes is going to be hurt all the time, maybe we need to keep Malveaux to set the edge against the run.

  48. Mike E. says:

    Just watched most of the first half. I have no problem the way Tannehill played and the short passing game. I didn’t like that they tried the bubble screen twice in a row on the right, and then once on the left, but they’re clearly just working on that, they wouldn’t do that in a game that counts. The McCaffrey 71 yard run everyone just got blown off the ball, it happens. Quinn just missed penetrating and just got chipped at the last second. Quinn was killing it, not just the 2 sacks, he looked insanely fast and had a nice tight radius to the QB, wasn’t running too deep and have to circle around, he really looked great.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Honestly, that big run by McCaffrey did not sadden me that much.
      Unless we don’t fix it.

      It was another perfect teaching moment for our DC.
      That was the OLB’s man. Was it Kiko or the rook?

      If the LB on that side even slows down the RB a half step, then TJ knocks the shit out of him for a 2-3 yd gain.
      TJ took the proper angle for that. But the RB was already loose full speed.

      Even all pro Reshad got beat. It was the LB’s mistake. One guy missed his lane assignment. Boom. McCaffery is that fast.

      The scary thing is every team has a RB that fast, so if we don’t fix that, we are toast.

  49. naplesfan2010 says:

    ORob buddy if you will slightly give up on the bell cow role for Gore, I would agree with you perfectly.
    Gore is just what we need to complement Drake, and we saw where we could’ve used him on 4 RZ drives that resulted in FGs. Even Sinorice and Buddy were useful up the gut down close at other times.

  50. Mike E. says:

    Raekwon struggled some because some of the big Panthers O-line were right on his ass, but I saw on a could of quick passes where he was free from blocks just how quickly he closes and how well he tackles. Phillips and Gadchaux and whoever else are going to have to keep the big boys off McMillan. Spence didn’t look that good, but just one half I’ve watched.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Kendall Langford might be just the vet to keep Raekwon clean.
      We also did not have Phillips for that game. Talk about the Bigs.

  51. naplesfan2010 says:

    We fans are going to need to be patient and hope we don’t go 0-6 before we gel.
    We have lots of youth in significant roles.
    We also have 13 new guys in our first 23 starters. I know not all are rookies, but still …
    PLUS we have a new OL coach, DL coach, DB coach, and OC.
    Lots of stuff to mesh for a young HC.

  52. naplesfan2010 says:

    13 new starters from last year out of 23 first string positions.
    I am counting Drake (or Gore ORob), because he has never been a #1 RB even in college.
    QB* RB* TE slot LG RG C PK MLB OLB DT DE plus wherever Minkah plays.

    That’s a lot. We even have a new QB/C pair to work on cadence and exchange.
    So some of those presnap penalties last year were on Smokin’ Jay,
    and some this year might be on the new signal callers gelling.

  53. Holy crap the refs think they are the stars and not the players again. Can’t even tackle the QB anymore by some refs, not others. Inconsistency means know one really knows enforcement of vague and ill thought out rule changes.
    The Maim game was ok, but some of the other games, QB is touch Him easy, asking QB kindly if it’s ok to touch him in a football way, permission needed first !

  54. Dolphins are last in run defense, true the games don’t count, but in 3 weeks they count. We better see some signs that We are capable of it in Suh,s absence

  55. Shula always claimed penalties were lack of self discipline. He may be right, delay of game penalties are the worst display of ineptitude I can think of in the NFL.
    Clock mismanagement? really? At the NFL level? SMH

  56. Randy says:

    You guys are making football into rocket science. It’s not that complicated. PS games are for practice. I’m discouraged to hear we’re still having procedural-type penalties, but this is the time of year you expect them to happen so you can work on them and get better. You screw up. You learn. You correct. You build from there. Let’s see how they’re doing when games count.

  57. son of a son of a shula says:

    “Ninety percent of the game is half mental”

  58. stangerx says:

    “His name kept coming up since the spring. Hayes was getting on me pretty good about just, ‘Take a look at my guy. Take a look at my guy.’ We brought him in and a couple of other guys in, did a workout, and our guys felt like he looked like the best guy. And then they asked him to run the conditioning test and he crushed it. That was great to see because it’s hard to find guys that can come in here, especially at that spot, and be in shape.”

    “And then he plays 18 snaps.. For him to come in there and not have any errors, just minor technique things that we just do different than he really hasn’t done before, I thought it was a great sign for us. Having a guy that’s a veteran guy that basically everybody in this building respect, it’s good to have him here.”

    — Gase on Kendall Langford

  59. I like the fact Drake didn’t start at Bama, he’s fresher than the average Bama back that had to handle several hundred carries, and go through poundings and injuries . He was good enough to start for almost 100 percent of NCAA teams, the notable exception being the overloaded with talent Roll Tide Rosters.
    I really like our stable of backs, We should get some damn good production IMO, especially if the OL has truly improved.

    • bookman11 says:

      David,
      That is a good point about Drake not having the wear and test on his body because he was a role player at Bama.

  60. 13kvFINS says:

    “””Sloppy play, penalties, and SIX INJURIES hurt Vikings”””

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24411188/minnesota-vikings-lose-6-players-injury-preseason-game

    Keep it simple Miami, save the good stuff for the regular season!!!

    Evaluations are what the PS is about, NOT WINNING!!!
    Browns had undefeated o17 PS, and 0 – 16 Regular season!!!

    GOFINS!!!

  61. 13kvFINS says:

    Naples
    “””13 new starters from last year out of 23 first string positions.””””

    EXACTLY what my June Starting Roster Piece suggested would take place!!!

    Yeee Haaaa, GOFINS!!!

  62. 13kvFINS says:

    16 plus minutes of Gase (video presser)

    GOFINS!!!

  63. Krishna says:

    Coaches up Tank in the presser. Nice.

    Thank you, KV.

  64. mf13ss says:

  65. Morning Guys, idle thought,,, What bugged Me about the Mcaffrey 71 yard TD was the fact our DL wasn’t holding the edge, nor plugging the middle. The linebackers didn’t perform up to their name, back the line. They were not in position to make plays, so they did not make em.
    And the safeties? They are also responsible for run Containment as well, a safety that can only cover passes won’t be at the NFL level past training camp.
    This was a defensive breakdown at 3 different levels, SMH. We have to get some things tidied up before the games count,

  66. Everyone knows it’s preseason, but.a veteran like Reshad Jones being out of position on at play tells me the guys are not mentally ready yet.
    The penalties suggest the same thing.
    Gase addressed the teams shortcomings and suggests they can get fixed in a couple weeks. I’m sure the penalty problem is a much easier fix, You just don’t stop the run when it feels good, it’s a mindset and a lifestyle of thinking IMO.
    I am concerned of our defense, because I know our team success , advancing to a super bowl and possibly winning it, can only happen with a top ranked defense. We had top ranked defenses for our Super Bowls, it wasn’t coincidence IMO

    • steveccnv says:

      Penalties happen more at the wrong time in preseason, because the game is officiated differently. I say at the wrong time, because we didn’t have a lot, they just occurred at inopportune time.

  67. olddolphan says:

    YES, DAVID, Miami’s lack of a reliable run defense is worrisome. But so is Tennessee’s pass defense. The Titan’s allowed 226 yards passing IN THE SECOND QUARTER of their game against the Bucs’ Jameis Winston the other night!!! IF I WERE ADAM GARSE, I’d call plenty of medium range and deep passes on opening day!! – – But, looking at his past, I’d expect more dink-and-dunk passes, instead that come-up short of a first down, even if completed!!! Hope GARSE proves me wrong!!!

  68. wyoming85 says:

  69. ocalarob says:

    In the presser Gase was asked why they couldn’t convert 3rd downs? and he asked what was the down and distance? then he continued to say 3rd and 13…3rd and 25…3rd and……This is exactly what i’m talking about.

    you have to be in a manageable 2nd and 3rd down situations to convert, you need a powerful running back to get you in those situations…..something we lacked last year with Drake.

    not being able to convert stresses your whole team, Defense can’t get rest. it takes more energy to play defense than it does offense because they have to react whereas the offense knows where they are going.

    at least it comforts me to know Gase is aware of this, how he goes about achieving this is another question…hold the bubble screens..give it to GORE!

  70. ocalarob says:

    if Gore were to get injured we would be doomed, Ballage looks like a heavier Drake, we need a low to the ground rb to back up Gore, maybe perry or buddy howell may fit that role better than drake or ballage although i have not seen enough of ballage to rule him out but i do know Drake can not fill that role.

  71. Rockphin says:

    just checking my with you guys. Wicki has nothing on it. Was it a huge Burn back in the 1940’s to add an R to the middle of someone’s name?

    “Did you see Jarmes? Ha! He can’t even dance the jitterbug! What a rube!”

    Was that a thing?

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m thinking more roaring 20sish.

      When the New Englanders removed the r from the end of words they needed a place to put it.

  72. steveccnv says:

    I bet Rockrphin would tell them where they could put it😉

  73. ocalarob says:

    for all you 1.8 Drake Dummys…..when we play the Titans and it’s first down and 10 and Gore is at RB behind Tannehill then we will know that you were all wrong.

    • Mike E. says:

      Does that make you a Gore Globber?

      • ocalarob says:

        anything to stop the 6-10 seasons!

      • 13kvFINS says:

        Damn OCR is desperate if willing to swallow a load of Gore, ENJOY 😋

        LOVE MY DOLPHINS, but not that much!!!!

        GOFINS!!!

        We’ll start in two back set, LOL!!!
        While I’d seriously doubt that the first play of the first game will prove anyone to be right or wrong!!!

  74. Mike E. says:

    Pretty sure OD means Gase is an arse, thus the G-ARSE. I disagree though. I think Gase is pretty smart, players have to execute

    • stangerx says:

      I was thinking Garse was a pun on farce, but whichever it is he did it twice. Whichever it is pretty clear OD not a Gase fan at the moment. Not sure if it will work out, but he ain’t Sparano or Wanny either.

  75. Mike E. says:

    LOL @ Rob – Team player!

  76. mf13ss says:

    • wyoming85 says:

      Who gives a shit!
      Suh your teams ranked bottom half!

    • 13kvFINS says:

      Guess that Suh forgot the real funny part,
      or thinks that he himself is good for a laugh

      “”””In the three years Suh was with the Dolphins their run defense ranked 28th in 2015, 30th in 2016 and 14th last season. So, not exactly stellar when middle of the pack is your best showing.

      ((((( Last year, with Suh playing 81 percent of the plays, the Carolina Panthers rushed for 294 yards against Miami. They had a 69 yard run. And a 43 yard run.)))))

      It wasn’t funny then. “”””

      Or was it ???

      GOFINS!!!

      • steveccnv says:

        Aaron Donald from Rams is the same type of player, all about his numbers at the expense of the team numbers. Maybe we’ll see this year how the Rams run D is affected.

  77. wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv says:

      Any given sun day: The NFL and American Cancer Society have partnered to help coaches and players prevent skin cancer due to extended time in the sun.

      I always wondered what they did to prevent skin cancer, seeing as they’re in the sun a lot.

  78. sb7mvp says:

    I thought Garse was the sound that Goofy makes.

  79. Randy says:

    Stopping the run is a TEAM EFFORT. There is no one guy who just does it by himself. Judging a single player for a team’s run defense is missing the mark. Sometimes, teams don’t even expect their DL to stop the run. Their job is to create lanes for LBers. Unless you know how the coach is designing the defense, it’s impossible to know.

    • stangerx says:

      Really liking what we might do as far as protecting the pass with the guys they line up, but am concerned about the rush D. But your great point is you can’t really know right now. Different D for sure and they are just testing out the pieces.

  80. wyoming85 says:

  81. wyoming85 says:

    Mondo can’t even trow a compliment unless it’s backhanded!

    • stangerx says:

      LOL — great play… must have been blown coverage instead of the scheme.

    • 13kvFINS says:

      That was like Sammy Madison, picking off the ball from some other team mates responsibility, playing the field not just his zone/man…

      Loved #29 Sammy Madison, & Fitz gonna carry that # into infamy,
      while X does the same for the position of Sammy!!!

      GOFINS!!!

    • Sometimes a defender just sniffs the play out, He has it in his mind what is going to happen, and when it DOES, its Candyland! Lol. I love defenders like this, they have a nose for the ball and anticipate before it happens!
      Whether it was called or not is irrelevant, because Howard was in the right position, and He made the Pick!

  82. Wow, We didn’t win the first 2 PS games, and ESPN premature ejaculated over it and called the Dolphins WORST team in the NFL. Dead Last. Now if that isn’t prematurely freaking out over nothing, lol
    I certainly don’t feel that’s close, nor is it warranted. It looks like ESPN needs to spend some more money and get better quality sports reporters in this case.
    We as fans say We want to see improvements here and there, fans in 1972 were always finding things We could improve on, just not online, lol

    Anyways, the Fins will play well this year,offense is greatly improved with a real starting QB now, not Cutler and Moore. oL looks better, and skill players, RB, WR! TE look ready to go.
    We have the talent on defense, most of it very Young, and Maybe some need to have more patience, a lot of new faces using preseason to iron positioning and responsibilities out.
    If the Fins go 0-16, then of course We are the worst, lol. But I see 8 Wins absolute Minimum, if team gets on a tear maybe 10

  83. Randy says:

    Our offense has been mediocre at best for years. I don’t see much different this season.

  84. No worries, it’s good the Media challenges us with bs, even if it’s bs, lol
    The team will prove em wrong when the season starts, those minimum wage matrix stars will be eating crow feathers and trying to make excuses while choking on them, lol

  85. Mike E. says:

    I’m not sure why anyone would take what they’ve seen from 2 preseason games and form an opinion on the this team for the rest of the season. What is that opinion based on? The first game, starters, played maybe 2 series. The 2nd game about a quarter, maybe a bit more. If you play FF, are you basing who you take for FF from preseason results? I’d think not!

  86. steveccnv says:

    Randy says:
    August 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm
    Stopping the run is a TEAM EFFORT. There is no one guy who just does it by himself. Judging a single player for a team’s run defense is missing the mark. Sometimes, teams don’t even expect their DL to stop the run. Their job is to create lanes for LBers. Unless you know how the coach is designing the defense, it’s impossible to know.

    Yes that’s true, but one guy can be responsible for the lack of success, like someone on the DL consistantly going upfield to rush the passer on a running play, leaving a gaping hole behind him. There was talk that teams game planned doing this to Suh.

  87. son of a son of a shula says:

    George Iloka got released today Mike E too bad we’re loaded back there but he must be done if they cut him already.

  88. D says:

    PS is vanilla play calling and just seeing who is fundamentally sound. To think you see everything a player is and everything the offense can do in a PS game just isnt fact. They are just seeing how these players execute. Im not worried about these games much, other than the discipline issues, like injuries, that kill drives, stuff like that delay of game.

    The coaches are seeing or not seeing what they need to to cut down to the 53, so there isnt much, as a fan to worry about. Its nice to see Quinn rack up sacks, but it doesnt ultimately matter, he’s a lock to make the team. I like tat we get to feel more comfortable about how he will fit in our D, but did anyone really doubt it? I didnt.

    I dont think we or the reporters even really know who is ahead and who is behind in these camp battles though we might get a glimpse of that when the 4th game happens and all they have in there are the ones fighting for those last spots. Im encouraged by our team right now, things definately will need to be cleaned up but we arent looking like a complete shit show. When real football starts again we can start out bitching and moaning, but just take the good stuff from PS games and hope we see more of it when regular season rolls around than we do the bad stuff.

  89. D says:

    stangerx says:
    August 20, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    LOL — great play… must have been blown coverage instead of the scheme.
    ————————————–
    Why? LB can be in man with CB’s in Zone or vice versa. Its not all in zone all in man in the defensive scheme.

  90. Rockphin says:

    Why? LB can be in man with CB’s in Zone or vice versa. Its not all in zone all in man in the defensive scheme.
    Reply

    I read somewhere that X had become “free” on that play because of the scheme and had no responsibility as it worked out so he was able to just play the QB.

  91. naplesfan2010 says:

    “the most underrated QB in football.”
    https://www.thephinsider.com/2018/8/20/17757970/miami-dolphins-ryan-tannehill-breakdown-expectations-outsider-view

    on Tannehill … from a Browns fan.

  92. mf13ss says:

  93. wyoming85 says:

  94. Let Me give ESPN a little hint since they must be new to their jobs.
    A lot of things will be differant when the season starts, just a few things
    1 This is a football. Lol

    2Starters get the lions share of the snaps, then second string.
    3 We will only have the best 53 players left at that point, a lot of guys not performing will be gone.

    4 Anyone named Osweiler won’t be allowed anywhere near a live football, lol or hopefully the locker room either.
    5 there are many more, but We don’t want to overload the minimum wage rookies at ESPN, if they can get the first 4, maybe We can add a couple more next season!

  95. Suh is chiding us, as if HE could have made the tackle on the Mcaffrey TD. A quick peruse through the NFL stats show us that Suh had 29 tackles in 16 games. That’s less than 2 per game, making it highly unlikely he can stop every run in the middle.
    I liked him here, he was decent, but overrated and way way overpaid.
    If we overpaid for 29 tackles again, We wouldn’t have near as many other weapons, Suh would be gobbling up too much of our cap, much more than he does RB,s
    It was foolish to overpay in the first place, IMO . We should have drafted and developed a NT, and been further along working in other talented players We needed.
    Sometimes You have to cut losses to get gains.

  96. olddolphan says:

    I agree with those who say you can only come to a few conclusions on Miami’s season when you base them on 2 exhibition games. However, ONE of the few conclusions is THIS: Miami’s run defense has sucked for many years and i’VE SEEN NOTHING during the preseason that proves we’ve reversed this troubling trend!!
    ——————–
    Conclusion #2: Over the last few years, GARSE has shown a maddening tendency on 3rd and 7 or 3rd and some other number to throw a very short dink pass and HOPE the receiver can break several tackles AND GET THE FIRST DOWN!! –Shitty strategy, Garsee boy!! –And, of course, when the receiver FAILS to get the first down, either he gets BLAMED (“He ran the wrong pattern,”) or the reporter is asked by the head coach, “WHAT was the down & yardage?” My response to the GARSE MAN would be this:”It doesn’t matter, coach. If it’s 3rd and 7 or 3rd and 17, you need to call for a pass that LONG ENOUGH TO PRODUCE A FIRST DOWN!!!!!” GARSE, of course, disagrees. He’d rather 1) blame the receiver. 2) blame the reporter. 3)blame the fans who dare to question him. 4)blame the officials who put the Fins in 3rd and long. Or, less often, blame the assistant coach he hired who is smoking dope or snorting an illegal substance.

    Frankly, I’ve had enough of GARSE’s lame excuses. Yet, sadly, he’s EXACTLY the kind of coach that Ross would hire—-one who loses more than he wins. Indeed, the ONLY head coach Ross has hired who had a winning record here was, are you ready, kiddies, Todd Bowles, current head coach of the Jets, who went 2-1 in three games as head coach. When Bowles applied to get the job, Ross told him “You didn’t make the cut,” and hired Joe Philbin!!!

    ESPN says Miami is the worst team in the NFL. Boy do I hope THEY ARE WRONG!!

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Our rushing defense rank in the years that Kendall Langford played for us:
      2008 – 16th
      2009 – 15th
      2010 – 4th
      2011 – 3rd
      per PFF

  97. mf13ss says:

    I dunno… but there’s been only ONE person that I know of, that has been concerned about our run-Defense (speaking ONLY of our fan base). And it had NOTHING to do with losing Suh.

    It’s too early to tell after a mere 2 games in the preseason, but I wanted us to bring in Johnathan Hankins for a REASON!

  98. I can’t boycott Disney, they create work for our community, the best kind, the kind not related to Disney, lol
    I have personally met many Disney employees, and aware of their style of Management at the Mouse.
    1. Must be willing to start for federal Minimum wage.
    2. Refer back to 1 if in doubt.
    3 if You get a successful review in 90 days, You get a whopping .$ 0.15 cents raise!

    This style of management gets You the least productive workers IMO, even if the benefits are decent.. Their middle managers were paid to train cheap new hires, and when the cheap guys knew about 30 percent as much, the “overpaid ” were let go. They describe the process as preparing for Ones funeral, humiliating, and obviously ends in unemployment.
    Disney is building ton s of parks, and making crap loads of movies, they are cutting employees, installing huge solar farms, doing everything they can to cut costs on running parks, since they are constructing new ones everywhere.
    So Yea, When Disney bought out ESPN, what would be Your guess what happened to the experienced ” overpaid” . You got it, bring in the cheap hires
    They put out a great product, but the service is often lacking even though they claim everything’s perfect. And don’t even look at the employees parking lot, looks like a junkyard, no one can afford a car that’s guaranteed to get them to work

  99. Word on the street is Orlando Sentinel went dirt cheap too .
    don’t bother reading their Minimum wage reports

  100. MegaCorporations are ruthless in their pursuit to either give us peanuts or pink slips. I don’t know How anyone can live on poverty wages.

  101. sb7mvp says:

    I love Disney. Wish I could go back soon.

  102. What kills Me is Home builders are building half a million dollar homes and quarter million and up town homes and condos all around Disney. Who are they for? Employees will have to live in the abandoned orange groves far away.
    The Matrix got us by the shorthairs if we don’t break free from the chains,
    Thedamn megacorps are trying to destroy the moms and pops that actually DO provide superior customer Service. Ok, I’ll get off My soap box, lol. Subject change,,

  103. Mike E. says:

    Sonny – Wow, Iloka must want some serious cash, he had a decent year last year. We have T.J. who’s just about the same size as Iloka, so yeah, not shot we’ll look in his direction, especially after drafting Minkah

    • I’m extra jacked this Year, I wanted Minkah to pair with Jones all along , but thought He would be picked before Us. We will have a great pass defense this year IMO, and I believe We will find a way to get bodies in the running lanes. It takes time to gel as a team, maybe a little longer than 2 ps games, lol. For sure!

  104. I believe Minkah was the best defensive player in the draft. Can’t wait to see!

  105. Fitspatrick is like a laser honing in on his target. He can surprise a RB by filling a lane at the last minute with a physical sure handed tackle. And in the secondary he’s a versatile beast! Once he gets comfortable in our backfield, He will generate tons of plays and help us win games!
    A little peek at Minkah Fitzpatrick

  106. 13kvFINS says:

    Always good for a laugh

  107. Thoughts while watching the Minkah video, I have never seen a better safety highlight vid.
    This guy is a huge mismatch anywhere and everywhere. He makes plays that You can’t even believe or think possible. He could and should be Miamis best safety ever!

  108. Rockphin says:

    Damn we passed on 22-29 Todd Bowles! Dumbasses!!

  109. Minkah,s nickname is Mr Pick 6, lol

  110. Rockphin says:

    I do believe this is the earliest in the season I have changed from drinking the koolaid to freakin out.

    • 13kvFINS says:

      Always open to a sip of several spiked pitchers worth of “”freaking out”””

      Yea, too much leads to OverDose…
      My gosh howd it become so popular

  111. This will be Tannehill,s best season IMO, he looks great and I’m thinking he gets better protection this year to go along with more targets, including a red zone TE.
    Major upgrade over Cutler

  112. mf13ss says:

    ————
    Same can be said about Tannehill… yet, he doesn’t get the free pass that LUCK does. SMH

    • 13kvFINS says:

      Though THills arm hasn’t been holstered like Luck’s either!!!

      Luck is awesome when right,
      Shoot he was NFL ready after his collegiate sophomore season,
      while THill was breaking A&M receiving records,
      and didn’t take a snap till midway through his junior season!!!

      THills done pretty well for himself with minimal (if any) assistance along the way…

      Fact is that from day one until Gase came along..

      Everyone involved in the development of THill stunted the runt of the litters already stunted growth!!!

      He rode the Chuck Wagon in o17 and is now no longer malnourished!!!

      Go THill,
      GOFINS!!!

  113. naplesfan2010 says:

    Ryan Tannehill career stats
    62.7 career completion rate
    18,455 yds passing in 5 yrs = 3691 per yr (one 13 game year)
    106 TDs = 21/yr
    66 = 13 / yr
    86.5 career passer rating

    He ran a 4.65 40 before the injury.

  114. wyoming85 says:

    If your looking for a turd in the grass you’ll find one!

    If you look for a clean path you’ll also find one!

    It’s just what you invest in!

  115. naplesfan2010 says:

    Luck tonight 6/13 (less than half) for 50 yds (less than 4 yds per att) and 0 TD and 1 INT

  116. wyoming85 says:

  117. son of a son of a shula says:

    >25 points per game we’ll be a playoff team

    17 a game and we’re the shit team everyone thinks we are.

    We have to score a lot of touchdowns and all these penalties don’t help.

  118. 13kvFINS says:

    “”””“I think this is the first time over the last three years that we’re actually going to be able to go through an actual mock game week,” Head Coach Adam Gase said last week. “Just the time frame of playing Friday to Saturday, getting into game preparation, actually have a clean dry run. We’ve always had something that has kind of stood in the way of that. Last year practicing at Philly, we were kind of going through it, our game plan, with them. So there weren’t a lot of surprises when we got to the game. And the year before that, we were still kind of toying with a lot of things and we didn’t really have our regular week set.””””

  119. 13kvFINS says:

    13 Colt penalties midway through 4th

  120. 13kvFINS says:

    Jerome Baker gonna be shadowing Lamar Jackson come Saturday,

    should be interesting to see what happens with our LB’s vs an extrodinarily mobile QB…

    Will be quite the test in the dress rehearsal game against
    something that we’ve always had issues with, as well as vs the Ravens to begin with!!

    GOFINS!!!

  121. manitobafinfan says:

    I have yet to see the play of Luck equate to the hype for Luck .. of the 4 qb I remember being drafted that year i would only consider Wilson to be an upgrade of RT .. make it 5, i just remembered Cousins was same year.. maybe him as well , this season will tell

    having said that, i would not be against us pulling the trigger on a deal for Teddy.. would likely have to be three way deal as i cant see the Jests dealing him within the division.. 100% upgrade at back up, and a safety net if RT does not become what we (including I) believe he can be this year .. Boy Scouts , Be Prepared…

    • 13kvFINS says:

      Teddy was the one and only QB potentially available to Miami in a draft (post 2012) that I was willing to consider as a potential THill replacement… Obviously pre Teddy injury severity…

      I’d love if he happened to fall in our lap,
      but I dunno if I’d be willing to give up draft picks or whatever…

      Oh Yea, I also wouldn’t have hesitated a single second in o18,
      If Baker were to fall to us, didn’t want any of the other guys at our pick,
      but I loved Lamar Jackson for Miami since o15/16 though not where we picked at in the first of o18…

      I’d have swooped,
      If he’d a been there at pick of Gesicki,
      but he wasn’t,
      so I’m loving me some Gesicki who I had projected for us at that pick along with that Philly TE (Joe-Dirt)!!!

      GOFINS!!!

      • steveccnv says:

        Teddy and Jackson both cant throw from the pocket, so just say no. Jackson was awful last night completing 0 passes until the D got soft on the final drive of the half.

    • Ken says:

      Cousins is nothing special. His stats are pretty similar to Tannehill as has the results of the team he has lead. Like Tannehill he is a starting caliber QB but he is not elite. He is now on a team with an elite level of talent. It will be interesting to see how he does this year

  122. 13kvFINS says:

    So I’m led to understand that sum’a’ewe Joisey Byzz live somewhat near one another ???

    When I lived 24 years in Nor-Cals Bay Area I went to sports bars every week that the Dolphins weren’t televised…

    Do you guys hook up on Dolphin gameday when you can’t watch from home,
    or Ya’all got the ticket, or do you actually have to wait for the replay???

    Those questions are asked of all who don’t get to watch the game from home or the stadium… Do you find a way to watch Dolphin games live???

    I couldn’t bare having to wait for the replay, even for PS, NO WAYYY in Reg season!!!

    When I lived in CA, I loved the televised 9am est games when I could stay in bed to watch the game while nursing a hangover!!! When Miami would win the snake that bit me & VICTORY became the remedy, when they’d lose I’d just sleep till Monday 😝

    GOFINS!!!

  123. steveccnv says:

    Luck doesn’t look right, he’s not throwing downfield.

  124. steveccnv says:

    I’m putting the breaks on for this year, something isn’t quite right. The run D, McMillan, CB opposite Howard. LB in general, 3rd down conversions…

    I’m hoping McCain or someone else steps up, 3rd down conversions and penalties dont carry over to the regular season.

    It’s not all bad we seem to move between the 20s with the greatest of ease. Howard and Fitz will settle the back end, Ryan seems ready to breakout, Quinn and Wake should be a great duo, Amendola and Albert can surely get open, and Gesicki is going to score a lot, but something isn’t quite right.

  125. days64 says:

    I wonder what Gase would take to unload Parker? Everyone knows we are deep on receivers… surely someone is whispering to the coach. Maybe Seattle???

  126. ocalarob says:

    olddolphan says:
    August 20, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    Conclusion #2: Over the last few years, GARSE has shown a maddening tendency on 3rd and 7 or 3rd and some other number to throw a very short dink pass and HOPE the receiver can break several tackles AND GET THE FIRST DOWN!! –Shitty strategy
    _______________________________________________________

    we’ve not had the luxury of a consistent reasonable down and distance on 3rd down, if its 3rd and 13 the D knows where you have to go to get to the first down, the dbs play deep and they send the pass rush.
    it’s a very easy fix…run the ball effectively on 1st down which i’m sure we will see a lot of Gore.

    this is pre season, i wouldn’t buy into any of that…most good teams lose all their pre season games and the bad ones win them all.

  127. ocalarob says:

    I heard in the presser Gore is chomping at the bit to play, Gase was asked if we will see Gore Saturday?….he said i can’t tell you right now…he said if i do and say “no” i will have to deal with an angry Gore all week long.

    I don’t blame him for not playing Gore in pre season, he’s our only hope to have a decent season.

  128. mf13ss says:

  129. Randy says:

    This team better find a way to run the ball effectively or it will be yet another in a very long line of disappointing seasons. The OL needs to assert itself.
    ***
    I don’t see us being a high tempo, high production team. That’s not something you just become because you want to. It takes a long time to develop that sort of precision. We’re nowhere close. I’d focus more on getting our running game where it can be at least effective. But, I don’t think Gase will.

    • ocalarob says:

      I believe to be a high tempo offense you have to be unpredictable, passing every down does not achieve that, if you can impose your will in the running game then you can get to the 2nd level of the D successfully as they have to play up to stop the running game, running the ball effectively and converting 3rd downs also helps your D get much needed rest.
      Gore is probably the best power rb there is, the only problem is we have no one behind him if he gets injured.

    • steveccnv says:

      I see 2 completely different offenses, depending on who is in the game. With Drake in expect more of a big play up tempo offense, throwing more on 1st down, with Gore I see more running on 1st down and more game management type of plays, with more play action. I think the switch back and forth is going to confuse the D. Is Drake in, is Gore in…oh shot it was Drake and there he goes with a spin move to the outside.

  130. Mike E. says:

    Randy – Why don’t you think Gase will run?

  131. wyoming85 says:

  132. wyoming85 says:

    Joe Schad @schadjoe
    28m28 minutes ago
    More
    Kalen Ballage, Mike Hull, MarQueis Gray, Jake Brendel, William Hayes, Trae Elston not spotted participating at Miami Dolphins practice

    Joe Schad @schadjoe
    32m32 minutes ago
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    Kalen Ballage (concussion protocol) is out here at Miami Dolphins practice in shorts

  133. ocalarob says:

    with all that kneeling Stills may have knee issues….is that why he was out?

    • stangerx says:

      He has some real serious problems. My brother showed up 3 hours after my Mom’s funeral, but least the scene he caused did not include being as big as Richie.

  134. steveccnv says:

    Yardbarker has a mock draft out with us picking 5th, and 7 AFC teams picking 21-32.

  135. Mike E. says:

    Son’s favorite site, draftsite.com has us picking 3rd.

  136. stangerx says:

    Yesterday am waiting for the light to take a left into a six lane road and watched what must have been three of the local mean girls high school click at work (all hot and dressed about the same). They crossed against the red hand as if it was their personal road, hit the median (landscaping involved) and then one of them stepped her foot over and was about two feet from getting bashed from a car going 35 (the speed limit).

    The one who almost got hit was shaken for good reason, the one in the middle didn’t say anything, the one in the back yelled A-hole at the top of her lungs…. and then they all ran across the rest of the way like a bomb had gone off. Afterwards got to watch the one in the middle have a crying meltdown and the other two give her a group hug. Reminded me why was lucky those types and I never got along much.

  137. Randy says:

    MikeE,
    I’m not sure I think it’s all about whether or not Gase will run. I know he has run the ball in other offenses. I just don’t think with all we’ve seen and heard that he will have the patience to run the ball. I think, just my opinion, that he thinks points come from the air. Plus, if he doesn’t win this year, he may not be around much longer. That pressure doesn’t lend itself to a lot of running…nobody has the patience for it anymore. And, if our OL doesn’t start showing that they can move people, I’m not so sure I can second guess Gase if he doesn’t have the patience to run the ball. Players need to execute, but I hope we see a little more patience with the running game.

  138. Randy says:

    ORob,
    An uptempo style is based on timing and precision. If you can’t run plays without getting a flag every 4th play, you can never up the tempo. You also need to be able to convert 3rd downs! Run or pass….it doesn’t matter. Most teams try to go as fast as possible. More plays….more chance to get points is the idea. But you need precision and discipline in your execution to get there. We haven’t seen any of that in years.

  139. 13kvFINS says:

    “””with all that kneeling Stills may have knee issues….is that why he was out?”””

    No!!!

    I saw the play that he legitimately tweaked or strained something, minor grimace, checking this and that…

    He wasn’t out because of kneeling and/or as a suggested punishment!!!

  140. mf13ss says:

    • Mike E. says:

      Let’s see how the ones do in Game 3 on Saturday against the Ravens. It will give us a little bit of a better idea, but still, not the exact picture.

      • Mike E. says:

        Although damn, we always lay an egg against the Ravens . . .

      • steveccnv says:

        If we can’t play well this time against the Ravens it’s a sure sign, we get 8 days between games and they only get 5 and it’s a home game.

  141. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I was never friends those girls either, or ever dated them either, they wanted no part of me. lol

  142. mf13ss says:

  143. Tim Knight says:

    What’s up folks, went off the grid for a few days being down the shore. I didn’t see the game just checked online to see what happened and that nobody got hurt. Is there anything new I should know about?

    • Mike E. says:

      I only watched the first half, the offense was moving with the short passing game, but penalties killed us. Defense looked pretty bad against the run, a few big plays. I’m not extremely worried. Cubs traded for Daniel Murphy. That’s surprising

      • Tim Knight says:

        Thanks Mike! Yeah I read that about the run defense. With the new way they’re playing and a lot of new players and young players, it may take some time to gel and clean some of that up.

  144. wyoming85 says:

  145. wyoming85 says:

  146. wyoming85 says:

    Why would anyone think Gore couldn’t be an asset in the passing game?

    • Mike E. says:

      I think he will, he can catch, and block too

    • Tim Knight says:

      Wyo, it will be both with Drake and Gore. Why is this so difficult to understand for people? I still say at the end of the day, Drake will lead the team in touches. Gore will play a vital role though because he has a knack for finding creases and he runs so low he can get 2-3 yards when you need it. Drake will have plenty of productive runs and some big ones. Gore will also make some plays in the passing game.

  147. wyoming85 says:

    How does 1, MF-1 long run play constitute shitty run defense?
    Somebody take the 77 yard’r out and tell me how the !’s did against one of the best run teams in the league?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Ask ORob. LOL

    • mf13ss says:

      Even if ya take McCaffrey’s 77-yard run out, we’d have given up 155 rushing yards… not good. But the fact of the matter is that ya can’t take McCaffrey’s 77-yard run out… it happened on our watch and they beat us by 7 points (not that the score really matters in preseason, but ya get the point).

  148. Tim Knight says:

    I saw the two sacks from Quinn on Newton which displayed his elite ability to rush off the corner. If he can hold up and avoid injuries, that’s what he can do.

    • Mike E. says:

      I liked what I saw from Quinn, but just like I’m not overly concerned about the defense, I’m not over-hyped by Quinn’s pass rush yet either. He looked fast, and he was having his way with the tackle for sure, but it’s preseason, so . . .

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not the stats but that he looks healthy and fast and he’s a tough SOB to to block. It’s not like he doesn’t have a body of work to go by.

    • mf13ss says:

      AGREED! What a pleasant surprise that was to many. Rumors of his past back injury derailing his ability seem to be false. I didn’t see him bend like he used to (it was one game with limited snaps for him), be he clearly still has a non-stop motor, agility to turn on a dime, and excellent closing speed.

  149. Tim Knight says:

    M13, my old mantra is nobody will care about the preseason once the RS starts. None of the stats matter in these games. The Bills and Colts would lose all their preseason games back in the day and always be playing for championships. They are practice games where 70+ players are getting work. Not saying this means we’ll be playing for championships, just that the results don’t mean anything. We could shut down the run game in the PS, get all excited about it and then allow 150+ in game one of the RS. The PS means nothing other than injuries.

  150. Tim Knight says:

    Randy, didn’t Gase roll with Ajayi when he felt that was our best option in 2016? Drake down the stretch last year. He absolutely will run it if it’s working.

    • mf13ss says:

      IF we’ve finally gotten the O-Line right, running will work… keeping in mind that gel time will be a factor what with different faces.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah of course. Didn’t Drake bust a big TD run against Carolina (3rd run defense) last year in the RS? He also had a nice run in the PS against them the other night. It happens. Talented players make plays.

  151. Tim Knight says:

    Ha!!!! I went and watched some highlights from the CAR game and the starters were basically tied in the 1st half 9-6 and 13-9 before all the subs started to come in. Based on what I read you would think we were trailing 38-3. LOL

    • mf13ss says:

      BRO! LOL, c’mon now! We both know that the score doesn’t matter, nor do the mere highlights, in a preseason game. Even IF we’d been trounced 38-3, it doesn’t matter.

      We’re looking at a lot of one-on-one match-ups, individual performances, and bubble players. In a way, you’re contradicting yourself with your above comment, man! 🙂

      • mf13ss says:

        NOT try to diss you in any way! As several here have mentioned, it was a real teachable moment for Raekwon what with the TD he gave up to Ian Thomas, and it was a teachable moment for several on the McCaffrey 71-yard run.

        It’s not all bad… it’s something that can only make us BETTER come the regular season! Can’t be afraid to fail… that’s when we LEARN!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Just saying that I was reading recaps and comments here and it made it seem like Carolina was a beast against us. Not true!!! LOL

      The late 1st half and 2nd half were backups and bubble players for the most part. That’s what I’m saying! Everyone is always about chemistry and continuity yet in the PS you never have that. It’s a PS game of reps decided by who practices well and that’s who plays. Guys who sit on the bench and get minimal reps until the 4th qtr are gone. They’re not showing it in practice.

      • mf13ss says:

        Okay, I’ve got you now, man! And as we all should know by now, the only somewhat meaningful game is PSG3 (dress rehearsal game). And even then, we’re still not going to be showing our Trump card or genuine intentions.

        And as I’ve heard you say for several years now, NOBODY will be referring to ANYTHING that happened in the preseason once the regular season begins… VERY TRUE. The only exception? When we played Jake Long into the 3rd quarter of a preseason game and he got severely injured, thus precipitating his decline.

        NO INJURIES, PLEASE!!!
        GO PHINS!!!
        HELL YEAH!!!

  152. naplesfan2010 says:

    OK so PS doesn’t matter, but we still better block the fuck out of Suggs or he might hurt our QB, which would be an unmitigated disaster. C’mon Laremy. Show your mettle.

    Actually, although i think we need to show patience and let our OL gel, i am done waiting on Tunsil to become that HoF guy I thought we drafted.

    You need to ball out this year Laremy Tunsil.

  153. naplesfan2010 says:

    PS Stanger
    I frickin hate Mean Girls.
    OK, I hate mean people in general. But being male, I hate Mean Girls more.
    I mean HATE.
    Mean Girls are a scourge on the planet’s social landscape.

    Who the fuck do they think they are anyway?

    • stangerx says:

      They think they are women who can get away with it. And enough people out there at least to let them do so. Not just in highs school but after. For most reality strikes when doesn’t work as well when the next generation like them hits the bar scene, but have met some who grew out of it.

  154. naplesfan2010 says:

    On McCaffrey’s run, notice that Bobby Mc did not fill his lane. He got ludicrously sicked in and neutralized without even being really blocked.

    He’s not used to being a boundary CB and coming in to offer run support from out there. It was his missed assignment that cost us the long run. Did you not wonder where the DB on that side was? Bobby McCain floated passively into the mess and got lost in the wash. Your Corners MUST make some run support tackles or the D does not have enough men to absorb all the blocks.

    OK so there was enough blame to share with TJ taking a bad angle and the OLB getting solo blocked, but it’s 11 on 11. If the D sacrifices a CB then it’s 10 on 9., assuming that since you are playing Carolina, somebody is the Spy on Cam Newton reducing it to 10 on 10..

  155. manitobafinfan says:

    We missed tackling him in the backfield by about a half second… dont recall who it was but we had a man who, if it were a pass play would have sacked Cams ass, he handed it off just a split second too late for rusher to take McCaffrey down

  156. Tim Knight says:

    When Drake does it it’s awesome!!!! When the opponent does it well now it sucks!!! lol

  157. 13kvFINS says:

    Agree with Naples, BMc initially OB the McCaffrey run
    thought that with all between him and handing,
    he didn’t even see/realize that the ball was in McCaffreys hands till it was too late…

    That’s how I saw it…

    Thoughtvwe played really good first half D other than 2 plays,
    and moved the ball well offensively minus 3 starters & 2 of top 3 RB’s,
    while believing that the penalties led to 9 rather than 21 first half points

    GOFINS!!!

  158. manitobafinfan says:

    The other team also gets paid to make plays, so every once in a while despite our best efforts they will win a battle .. we hust have to win more battles than they do and thus WIN THE WAR

    • 13kvFINS says:

      So true TOBA, “””other team gets paid too”””

      Be surprised at how many that don’t consider 😱 such a possibility 😁

  159. steveccnv says:

    Watching Buddy Howell play at FAU, he’s pretty good, but not the main back. Greg Joseph has kicked them all through the endzone. 2017 vs OD.

  160. 13kvFINS says:

    OK to Gase @ 5:20

    Where you at with the pocket, No sacks/pressure due to
    Ryan footwork/technique/presence, OL etc ??

    AG
    “”””Ryan getting ball out quick,
    but he’s got a lot of space back there,
    (((( I dunno if he used to this )))),
    the line taking a lot of pride in keeping him upright”””

    LOL,
    Ryan don’t know how to act without being engulfed by numerous beast in opposing colors…

    Probably true, it’s all he’s known since entering the league,

    17 “”””HMMM, this feels odd””””

    GOFINS!!!

  161. ocalarob says:

    Randy, I think most uptempo schemes are designed to keep the D personnel on the field and to read the defensive positions at the LOS, not necessarily to hurry up the game.

    the thing is when we get stuffed or draw a penalty on 1st down it puts us in a hole that we can’t climb out of on a consistent basis. penalties are a lack of execution and the blame for that should go to the HC.

    last year we didn’t have a RB that could give us 3 yards on 1st down consistently, if we did we would have a very manageable 2nd and 7 this IMO is the reason we went 6-10.

    all i can hope for is Gore will bring us an effective running game because without that we are at best another 6-10 team

  162. wyoming85 says:

  163. Randy says:

    ORob,
    Yes trying to keep base defensive Personnel on the field and keeping the other team from switching guys is part of it but you can do that by going slower too and just not switching your personnel out, so that’s not really the main focus.
    ***
    Also, I think the biggest reason we can’t run is our o-line not doing their job. Second, I would say it’s because we’re way too predictable. Then, teams know how to defend Tannehill by bringing early pressure…using run blitzes and forcing him to go to his short first read. I know you believe it’s more about the running back but I think it’s more about the offensive line.

  164. wyoming85 says:

  165. wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv says:

      Baker to start by default.

      We have our softest part of the schedule early, so while the rookies and new guys are getting acclimated we need to win games early.

  166. son of a son of a shula says:

    A big ol bloggy Happy Birthday to our pal Mike E

    Thanks for all you do

  167. steveccnv says:

    One of guys that tweets with the beat reporters, can you get this message out to them?

    Ask why we always play away on Thursday. Playing on the road on Thursday is the biggest scheduling disadvantage.

  168. D says:

    mf13ss says:
    August 21, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    Agreed with your take on the McCaffrey run… it was a collective Defensive failure, not just on one guy.
    —————————————–
    Anytime something like that happens, thats going to be the case but i will say there were some players that stood out as epic failing, McMillan and Baker both count on that play. The safeties didnt do a great job either after he got loose.

  169. wyoming85 says:

  170. 13kvFINS says:

    So MikeE, everyone talks about you being old as dirt,
    so been wondering how old dirt actually is???

    Get the feeling that you’re not quite that ripe…

    Have a GREAT DAY BROTHER,
    THANKS for your kindness to me, mine & all others,
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRIEND!!! 😃

    😋 cake!!!

  171. wyoming85 says:

    Matty I

    @MattyInfante
    2h2 hours ago
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    I’m bored. So give me your best #DolphinsHotTake for the 2018 season. Go….

    36 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    Reply 36 Retweet Like 2 Direct message

    Lee Harvey

    @Wyoming85Lee
    30m30 minutes ago
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    Why do we always play away on Thursday. Playing on the road on Thursday is the biggest scheduling disadvantage.

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    Matty I

    @MattyInfante
    20m20 minutes ago
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    Good question. Not sure why.

  172. Phindog says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIKE E !!!

  173. wyoming85 says:

  174. Mike E. says:

    Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone! Double nickels baby, after this birthday, I’m over the speed limit as usghe! 😀

  175. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

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